Wednesday, January 28, 2009

prep rehash

PREP REHASH
In honor of all my new loyal minions, I'm going to rehash the basics for frugal prepping. I'm sure my long time readers could care less. I had originally planned on a rehash on bolt guns instead of semi's, sure to generate howls of protest from troll section. I'll include that here, just so I can slog through fifty friggin comments about what an idiot I am. That is sure to brighten my day and focus my disapproval.
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Every time I bring up the backbone of your survival diet being wheat, I get assorted complaints. Bland, boring, less nutritious. The basic frugal preparedness plan is a bare bones, better than nothing plan. It contains no bells or whistles. It is what will keep you alive if the world ends tomorrow. It is not meant to be purchased and then forgotten. Ideally, it will be added on to. If the ideal is not met, at least it will keep you alive. Survivalism is about surviving, not about continuing a modern luxury existence without interruption. Buy four hundred pounds of wheat kernels per person if you want a years worth of food. Go to the feed store and buy bags of whole wheat kernels. Not flour, not flakes. And not treated with any vet medicine. Then buy yourself a grain grinder. A corn mill. Google 'corn mill' or 'corn grinder', or go to the link for Amazon products at my web site www.bisonpress.com to buy a $25 grinder. It is a cast iron grinder. It will outlive you if not left in the rain. It is meant as a rough grinder. Not a fine flour grinder. So with wheat you start at a course grind, run it through, grind again a little finer. It takes three or four times through the grinder to get nice wheat flour. Shut up and do the extra work, it is cheaper than spending $300 for a fancy mill.
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The wheat should have a little diatamacous earth ( food grade, not pool grade ) sprinkled in it to control bugs ( also at my Amazon store ). Half a cup per five gallon bucket is good. You put in with the kernels and roll the sealed bucket around to distribute. Buy food grade buckets. Wal-Mart used to have them in the paint section. I wrote an article about, but damned if I can find it ( anyone? a little help here ). Wheat has the highest protein content of commercial grains, although it is not a complete protein like meat is. For that you need to supplement it with beans. If it is all you have, you will eventually suffer from lack of protein, assuming you can't kill some rabbits or something. Again, this is bare bones, better than nothing.
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You will need three five gallon buckets per hundred pounds of wheat. If bought new rather than used from the bakery or BBQ joint ( take them to the car wash and hot water pressure wash them if dried on food inside ) you will spend about $20 per hundred pounds on buckets. About $200 per person for four hundred pounds, wheat and buckets. A lot more expensive than it used to be. Failing all of the above, just get rice and beans at the market. Next up, for water. If you live in a wood abundant environment, just boil all your water. It doesn't have to be boiled, just brought to a boil. All the germs are killed by then. Everyone else needs to buy a ceramic filter. Buy a Berky replacement filter, about $50. To make your own Berky filter unit ( the one with the multiple stick looking filters in a big bucket ) take one poly bucket and drill a hole in the bottom the same size as the filter spout. Set it on top of another bucket with lid on and that lid also having a hole. Fill the top, it filters through to the bottom. Good for 10k gallons. You can quibble all day about plastic chemical leaching, thus needing to buy $10 food buckets and $300 stainless steel water filters, but this is in a calamity, total collapse situation. You'll be dead from warfare long before you might get cancer from plastic buckets.
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Now get yourself a rifle. Not a $1,500 battle rifle that take $20 magazines and sixty cent .308 ammo. A World War Two surplus bolt action rifle. They are dirt cheap and built like a tank. I like the Enfield, but the Russian 91/30 ( don't get the 44 carbine ) is three quarters of that price. I don't recommend the Russian gun, as it has no gas escape feature. But no one else, including long time users and reloaders, share my concern. Up to you. The Mauser family has much more accurate rifles than the Enfield ( the 303 is great for dirty field conditions but suffers in the accuracy department. The Mausers are accurate but jam with dirt ) and cost somewhere between the $150 Enfield and the $100 Russian. Now, you could buy an SKS for just $25 more than a Enfield, but I discourage semi's in all categories ( pistols, rimfires and rifles ). You can't assume a continuation of ammunition. And you are too poor to stockpile 20k rounds. Either Obammy taxes ammunition much more, supplies stay scarce, imports from Russia are outlawed, or after a collapse no more ammunition is produced. When poor, the only option is to use much less ammunition. Under the stress of combat, semi's are sprayed and prayed. With a bolt action you must be much more careful before you fire. Because you aren't covering yourself with a wall of lead and because it will take valuable seconds to reload. Ammunition is high tech. It won't last forever and must be conserved.
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Buy as much ammo as you can. Even a hundred bucks worth is going to be far better than nothing ( a pile of worthless paper dollars being saved for a future semi purchase is not as good as a surplus bolt gun with bayonet and three hundred rounds of thirty caliber ammunition ). So far, you've spent about five hundred bucks. You have protection with food and water. You need a lot more, such as shovels or saws or other tools, camping cookware, wool clothing and blankets, knives, etc. But this will get you far down the road towards a preparedness stockpile. Which is far better than 99% of the population.
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48 comments:

Anonymous said...

When I get to be an old man, I wanna be like you.

"A KNOW IT ALL"

LIVING IN A TRAILER 30 MILES OUT OF A SMALL TOWN, WORKING FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE, GOING ON MY THIRD WIFE, PAYING CHILD SUPPRT, RIDING A BIKE TO TOWN , ETC, ETC.

"Boy you are great" !!

Im going to be like you.

Thats what every one thinks, when young and stupid.

I'm pretty sure you know it and make a business out of it.

If you were 1/2 smart as you claim to be, you wont be living like you claim to be..

Congrats.

Great business

Nightshift said...

Jim,
Good reminder post. That is what you site and philosphy has always been about. Bare bones, keep your ass alive. Some of us may have better means. No junk land around here but working a deal to buy sweet property at 3k per acre....minimum 2 acres. Wife wants to build but her idea and my idea are a few dollars apart.

I find myself getting bored with the trolls although he or they do sometime hit a humorous note. Don't ever give it up.

Your loyal minion....

Anonymous said...

LOl I just cannot seem to understand what Anon 1:21 is trying to spew.

I Have been getting square 3 gallon buckets from my local grocery store deli. They get thier potatoe salad and other premade "stuff" in them. I put a trimmed to fit mylar bag in and fill with wheat, rice or corn. O2 absober and a bay leaf and seal. I put bay leaves at the top and seal
the can up. The buckets are free, whats better than that?


Old fart loyal minion in the frozen great white north.

Anonymous said...

I think 1:21 could be a ex, the authors kid, disgruntled employee,spurned lover,rival blogger who knows? I still like your posts even though I dont buy your crap. Keep up the good work

Anonymous said...

I wish we could go with out the complaints and empty praise and stick with substance. New ideas would be nice.

Maestro said...

You forgot to include fat storage Jim, wheat and beans have way too little and if all you subsist off of is carbs and protein then you'll die of starvation in the winter or protein poisoning in the summer. Either do that or eat the internal organs of the rabbit (excluding any of the intestines) for your needed fat intake. I'm by no means an expert in food storage but storing mass amounts of lard is far from efficient as far as I know (don't quote me on that). SPAM would do for fat intake, though.

As for the trolls, ignore them. For every troll there are 10 readers who enjoy your blog. Now for every 10 readers there will be about 1 or 2 who heed your warnings but that's better than none.

Anonymous said...

Coconut oil for fat storage. Stores well, cook, bake and even use it on the scales or skin which ever you have. Get the refined stuff for less pronounced flavor.

Anonymous said...

though I do like alot of your prep ideas how do they fit with your idea of being a nomadic herder? Are you thinking more along the lines of a cowboy type herder? I guess nomadic herder in my mind is something like a Mongolian nomadic herder.

I don't see how it all comes together. Could you go a little more in depth on that subject, please?

Being a nomad and having quite a bit of stuff stored up just doesn't fit together in my mind.

As far as Anon 1:21pm who are you to criticize? Where is your blog or shared info on the net? What works for him may not work for you.

Anonymous said...

Jimbo what kind of supplies do you plan on taking with you when you hit the road?

Anonymous said...

9 5 gallon bucket of wheat
grinder
bolt action rifle
20k ammo for rifle
tools
cookware
wool clothing & blankets
knives


where would a nomad keep all those things?

Shy Wolf said...

When I think of 'nomadic herder', I think of two kinds: the Bedoiun (sp) and the Gypsies. Between those two are the 'tinkers' of America: men who traveled with horse and mule, or mule and wagon, carrying their goods. A modern version of that could have a horse and wagon/small trailer-camper/sheepherder's trailer-type (dare I say stagecoach or Conestoga?) living quarters. A bit large to move rapidly or hide easily, but workable.
Shy

Anonymous said...

"Survivalism is about surviving, not about continuing a modern luxury existence without interruption."

This should be in BOLD. It is probably the biggest failure in preparedness. Some folks are trying to prepare so that they can continue living exactly the same post-collapse as they were pre-collapse. Not going to happen. I appreciate the focus on minimalist survival. Will you survive longer than someone who can follow Rawles process? Probably not, but then again there's no guarantee that living in a $1 million + remote piece of property with 20k rounds of ammo, enough food to last for several years, and all the salt blocks you can store will get you any further. Makes me think of the t-shirt that says "Eat right, exercise, die anyway."

I appreciate Rawles but the irony is that most of the people who can afford to follow his advice are tptb. They are more likely to survive because they have the $ to do it.

Anonymous said...

"9 5 gallon bucket of wheat
grinder
bolt action rifle
20k ammo for rifle
tools
cookware
wool clothing & blankets
knives"

I have spent over an hour trying to fit this stuff in my pack but I just don't think it is going to work.

Anonymous said...

Oops...I got a model 44 russian. BTW, what is wrong with it? signed, Rookie

Anonymous said...

did you all read Rawles guest post today?. Excellent stuff, I actually read it twice a couple of hours apart to absorb what is being postulated. He might be considered a Yuppie and elitism in comparison to our humble Bison, but he does have good sh-- on his sight.

Old Fart (loyal Minion) Cunt)LOL

RV Survivalist said...

Thanks Bison.

I'm doing the RV thing, so storage of that nature - or even putting that kind of weight on my axles isn't possible.

Could store it on a couple of acres, which is being considered, but 2 questions:

1. What about some recipes
2. Brown Rice? Same effect? Complete protein when mixed with beans. Easy to cook - boil it.

Your thoughts...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"When I get to be an old man, I wanna be like you. "A KNOW IT ALL"LIVING IN A TRAILER 30 MILES OUT OF A SMALL TOWN, WORKING FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE...If you were 1/2 smart as you claim to be, you wont be living like you claim to be.."

gee, him and another ninety million people...

did you know ya' little punk, that 175 million american's actually are worse than broke: they are in DEBT. do you ever wonder about those snobby people in suits, driving in leased vehicles, with giant mortgages bigger than their McMansion... You know, those rich acting turds that tip like shit, flashing knock off designer jewlry, and plastic credit cards.

that's the real reason for the panic, the Obamaniacs, the collapse. some people just don't get it: the party is over, the cocaine and champagne has run out (at least for wall street).

there ain't going to be any recovery. the factories (what's left of them) are closing. the rascals in DC can't do anything except pawn the white house silver ware and give speaches.

it ain't going to be 'like it use to be'. there's already a severe water shortage in so. cal.: there's not enuf water to drink and for the usual food crops. plantings have been cut back. there's not going some serious food 'supply disruptions' VERY SOON.

it will be happening THIS YEAR, in the months to come. Not 1945, Not 1999, Not 2012.

your going to being thinking about scoring a hot meal soon, you punks, and not a big dime bag to party away the weekend with your friends in La La Land...

Anonymous said...

some of you are confused, the wheat storage is for a short term economic collapse /disruption in food supply.

The nomadic answer was to the question which was not asked,of weet "what will you do when you run out of wheat and society has fallen so for you can not gat a job and the welfare system has collapsed?. Well you in verst in some critters that need little water and occasionally walk them five miles to the river to get a drink every few days. The idea of nomadic herding which is alive still lived yy many today is that you travel from pasture to pasture you don't buy animal feed, the animals eat sage, grass and other brush grows on the ground. You then sustain yourself with animal milk, blood, cheese and meat, you have fur for clothes and tent making material. You have goats to trade for salt or beer or what have you. It is a practical solution for when you run out of wheat and you live in an area with lots of awful land and few people. Or you could put backpacks on your yaks and let them carry your wheat and ammo.

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/media_that_matters_8_a_nomads_life/

this movie is about modern nomadic herders

Anonymous said...

i think your just better off storing bulk and generic type foods that your use to eating... it's just after 20 years of cooking experience and trying all sorts of things...

amazing to watch tough grown people cry when you serve them a meatless meal...

apalling, to cook up a dinner from scratch and listen to people complain because it doesn't taste like the stuff out of a box..

peculiar, when there's women folk with children visiting here and the weird rituals to get children to eat not to mention the crap that gets served up.

well, i can't explain how dusty the 'animal' quality wheat is around here, so i go for 'fit for human' and pay more. btw, you can put a bag of wheat in the freezer for 2 weeks, and that will also kill off the bugs, eggs and lavre.

when you take it out of the freezer, it almost always needs to be rebagged because of freezing condensate.

redneckott said...

I learned to make beer so I could drink myself to death in the coming collapse. 10 dollars = 120+ beers. I am going to plant and malt my wheat to make even more! Empty carbs? I say ,meal in a bottle.
Tipsy

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

Linking... Succinct enough for me. Been needing a solid bare-bones guestimate to build on; thanks again...

vlad said...
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Anonymous said...

if I have 20 rounds of ammo for my bolt rifle I pull the trigger on 20 aimed shots. if I have my sks and 20 rounds of ammo I can pull the trigger on 20 aimed shots.
its called trigger control, and SELF control.
just because you have a semi auto rifle doesn't mean you HAVE to waste your ammo on spray and pray!
but it is there if I NEED it!

Anonymous said...

to 1:21 PM
You got a better idea? Let's hear it! Or are you one of those many people who run others into the ground because you got nothing in your brain? This blog/forum or whatever-you-call-it is for sharing ideas about how to get along, if you are poor, when things get really rotten. Or do you believe that things are just going to get better? Great, Why? I suggest that you don't just mouth disparagement. Jim at least has ideas. You are just a frog croaking in the dark. Get it? You're croaking!

You make Jim sound like a genius!

vlad said...

http://bisonsurvivalblog.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html

scroll down to
Wed Aug 1 2007
food grade plastic buckets liquified sprouts

theotherryan said...

SKS's are more like $250 these days. Their role as the poor mans assault rifle has caught the attention of some folks given what is going on and prices have adjusted upwards to reflect that. I wouldn't buy one for $125 when they were readily available and darn sure won't for twice that. Good post.

Anonymous said...

thr,
I was trying to make the point that it's not the type of action that determines the volume of fire but the operator!
I can shoot the sks [that I paid $75 for new] just as slowly as I want! I can even shoot it just one time and put it up.
or just as fast as I need to!
having a semi auto doesn't mean you HAVE to waste ammo!
anon 6:18

Anonymous said...

ryan,
I'm sorry I ment T.O.R. not thr.

anon 8:26

Anonymous said...

@ anon 5:34 PM:

I guess you are thinking more along the lines of Mongolian herders, but I'm also interested in what Mr. Dakin has in mind.

Like what kind of animals does he have in mind for herding? Yaks aren't native creatures to Nevada.

Even the nomads in the video depend on some kind of civilization being intact for trading...

...so why not be a part of that civilization and become part of a small community that would work together to get the best from everyone? The nomadic herders in the linked video seem to work along those lines.

Anonymous said...

Jim,

I like what you write and your ideas, I just change them a bit.

I like the idea of the bolt action rifle, so I got a Mosin, I love the thing.

I like the idea of grains, but I hate wheat, so I store corn.

You get the idea.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the summary. Keep up the great work

Anonymous said...

Has everybody taken a look at the stimulus package breakdown.

I can't believe they only put in 3 billion for Post Collapse Training and only 1 billion worth of tax credits for bolt action rifles and wheat berries:)

They did put in $100,000 thousand for Nomadic Lifestyle Disorder Prevention Treatment.

Anonymous said...

to 1:33 AM

Well, at least YOU probably think you are funny. What about the 1 million or so people without power in Kentucky? Suppose they can take care of themselves? Jim provides a lot of info that if studied and applied would at least help them through a power outage in winter and/or much worse. Idiots like you who make fun of those who try to prepare will have a lot of blood on their hands.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:33 am,

You need to thicken up that skin a bit. The only blood on my hands will be from the poor suckers that try to take my supplies. Tell those Kentuckians to have another glass of moonshine and yes they need to take care of themselves, Obammy isn't going to do it for them.

Anonymous said...

Yep the nomad bit will be an adventure. Is the wife all up for it?
You had better get your flock ready because you will want to hit the road for some practice before events prevent you from going mobile. And don't forget the damn dogs because you will need them. Make sure they are poison trained too.

I still think you will be better off staying put if you can get the water issue worked out and get that food stash beefed up 20 fold.

Anonymous said...

Well, good point on the nomadic 'beast of burden', not many animals available for that type of work. Come to mention it, how many of us could hitch up a team and know how to control a team of animals. So maybe human powered wagon / rickshaw type (two wheeled) trailer would be nice. Be hell to drive off road though.

Saw one of those racing 1 horse carts (forget what they are called) made of what appeared to be electrical conduit pipe. Bet it would carry 200 pounds of crap, plenty of capacity I would want to push around anyway - screw the rest. If you have a partner / spouse, you could spell each other.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Jim about wheat. Search youtube for 'Guns, germs and steel'. Interesting theory about why the white man dominates the world.
You can also sterilize bulk food supplies by dropping a chunk of dry ice in the bucket, leaving the lid cracked until fog spills out, then sealing it. The absence of oxygen kills insect eggs. With DE they have to hatch and start crawling around before they are killed, but hey, xtra protein!
Variety is a good thing tho-I would invest in a range of grains and beans. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Like RV survivalist, I'm going mobile. Food stores will be used minimally to supplement wild foods.
Congrats on your increased readership Jim, 1:33am, that WAS funny. This sh** gets more entertaining on a daily basis.
-Postmodern Gypsy

Anonymous said...

"Ammunition is high tech."

Wouldn't it be prudent to have a black powder gun then? If you could get with a community and had the goods to make black powder post collapse, you'd have something people need and want which would make good trading stock.

Just read Chicken Little #4 from lulu.com, it gets more in depth on Mr. Dakin's views on nomadic herding and a handful of other topics, it's well worth the $1 on lulu.

Anonymous said...

The truth is "Dicken" does't have a clue, of what to do post collapse. As he said himself he freezes under presure. He seems to be all over the place lately, jumping from one contradictory idea to another.

I live down the road from him, and guess what he never moved from the trailer park. He has lived in the same place for the last two years or there about.

He never moved off grid it was all a lie to make himself look like a survival expert and a been there done that kind of guy and not the I read about it or watched it in a movie so it could work guy he really is.

He lives in a fantasy world where he is some kind of survival guru. Everytime I talk to him I trink of Dale Grible of King of the Hill.

Anonymous said...

Bison your heart is in the right place, but you obviously don't know much about guns. You should limit you advice in that regard to what you really know.

I have a collection of Czech Mausers, I love them best. But there were millions of Mausers made in dozens of countires, and most of them are just fine for the purposes we're describing.

The Russians made more millions of bolt-guns, and they tend to be quite low-cost (You can pick up a moisin-nagant for under $100, especially if you get a C&R license)- and 7.62x54r ammo is plentiful at the moment.

Semi-auto battle guns are more expensive, but there's a reason the industry eveolved toward them. They more effective in war. You're looking at 3 serious contenders: SKS, AK47, and AR 15. The SKS is perhaps the most affordable, the AK is usually considered the most reliable, and the AR 15 is generally the more accurate. An AR 15 with a gas piston upper is just as reliable as the AK, becauser the piston is what makde the AK reliable in the first place.

But survivalists will tell you not to overlook the noble and affordable .22 rimfire. I have a shitload of guns. If I could only take one gun, I'd take a .22 and a whole lot of ammo. It's not the greatest anti-personnel caliber, but for small game it's fine.

Bison, based on your comments about guns, you should keep guns for hunting only. Don't get in a gunfight, you'll lose. Herter's#204

Anonymous said...

If what Anon 9:08 AM said is true that is a pretty hard blow to Mr. Dakin's credibility especially considering his Survival Homesteading material.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Anon 9:08 am he may be full of hooey but James could easliy provide pictures of his new set up to squelch the rumor. I for one wanted to see his new place anyways.

Anon 9:08 could provide pictures as well if he is not full of shit.

Anonymous said...

I to would like to see proof of the Dakin trailer homestead. All the rest of the blogers have done this Creekmore, Wretha and others have provided proof of what they have done by posting picks of their set up.

If james has really moved off-grid like he says he has he/she will do the same. My guess is he will not. He will only post somemore crap about how mean the trolls are bla, bla, bla.

If he will not post some pics as proof, then we can assume he has only been lying to us and is a big fat fake.

Anonymous said...

Everyone that would like to see some proof in the form of pic leave a comment here to let jame know his readers want proof.

Hell even james can afford a disposable camera.

But like always I am sure he will come up with some lame excuse.

Anonymous said...

The readers are drwing a line in the sand. We want proof, not words and sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

I would like to see pictures of his place but I have little doubt that he moved to Elko, since he included his address on the Bison Press page and people have sent him gifts to that address which he evidently received.

Anonymous said...

Elko doesn't seem to be too much out of the way....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elko,_Nevada

http://www.elkonevada.com/

http://www.ci.elko.nv.us/

Anonymous said...

Jim,
Why don't you like the russian m44? I have 3 (bought five for $210 delivered last summer and sold 2 to the local gun dealer after cleaning off the cosmoline for $125 each so FREE GUNS) I have fired them a good deal and relativly accurate at 125 meters and I am in the east so not much need for really long shots. I am just curious why you do not like them.

Thank for all you do.