Friday, February 06, 2009

comic hero

COMIC HERO
Before I forget, look for a guest article tomorrow. Being a guest writer is a mark of distinction and prestige, paying absolutely nothing except Super Loyal Minion brownie points. I don't care about style ( or lack thereof ). In fact, the worse you are the better I'll look. I only care about the topic. So don't worry if you write like I draw ( misshapen stick figures ). Send in your articles and I'll post them on a weekend. Since I have such a large troll population who think I don't know what I'm talking about there should be plenty of submissions from those smarter than I. Or is it smarter than me? I'm sure their grammar is perfect also.
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Today we talk about the comic hero ( no, not the comic book hero ). I was reading an article from the Archdruid Dude ( http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/ ) about recommended books and he listed "Muddling Toward Frugality" by Warren Johnson. Wait I minute, I said to myself, I have that book. Picked up for a few cents at a thrift store, I had never gotten around to reading it. So I pulled it out and started on it and ran across a page that stood out. It tied in with the Grey Man article from Rawles blog last week. He described a book, "The Comedy Of Survival" by Joseph Meeker, and how there are two types of hero's depicted in classical literature. The tragic hero and the comic hero. The tragic hero is the one usually honored. He will not compromise his values. He challenges forces greater than his own. He risks everything for the correct stance. Coming immediately to mind is the well armed militia member waiting to rise up after gun confiscation and smite the un-Constitutional government. These are the kind of hero's we love and wish to be like when we grow up. How many movies have this kind of hero? 99%?
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The problem with this kind of hero is that they are uncompromising. We hate politicians that compromise, yet the individual that won't is both a hero and, depending on your type of view, someone like a terrorist. Every radical, uncompromising stance has an opposite viewpoint. When neither side will concede, wars occur. When you are waving the flag and voting for Bush to send more troops into a foreign country whose only sin was to own oil, do you stop and think of the tens of thousands of civilians killed outright or slowly through lack of medicine or sanitation or through radiation poisoning? Of course you don't. You are uncompromising in your view and to tone down the rhetoric and jingoism would be cause to be thought unpatriotic. I'm not judging those in the military. I think they are doing a fine job. Doing even more than is expected of them. To go back a third or forth time to a combat zone is commendable. My problem is both with the civilian leadership that sends them there and the civilians that encourage it because they won't allow any rational discussion of the topic.
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And to quote from the above source, " ...the tragic hero is usually an unpleasant individual to be with; he takes himself very seriously; he is unwilling to compromise; and he is condescending to anyone who disagrees with him." For all the admirable traits, those are the ones less than commendable. The other kind of hero is the comic hero. He is usually thought of as a buffoon. Silly, takes few things seriously. His goal is to survive and enjoy himself as much as possible. He doesn't want to fight, but merely to try to outwit his enemies and those in authority. Living life, surviving. Those are important and no cause is worth dying for. Life is not a struggle between right and wrong, but a thing to enjoy itself. This could be termed the pragmatic viewpoint. The bad thing with this type is that they don't take much seriously. They aren't interested in your crisis de jour. Most would be termed the sheeple. Both have good and bad points, but ask yourself this.
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Which view will help you adapt and survive?
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17 comments:

Stuka-T said...

That was great. I read your blog every day and don't care where or how you live out your worldview. You have a great take on what's going on these days and the skulking dweebs who leave inane, caustic comments have nothing to offer.

The more that talk about this stuff in a coherent, legible way, the better. Your biting, Bukowski-esque wit and bare bones angle are easier to digest than Rawles and his well heeled minions.

Please keep doing what you're doing.

Anonymous said...

Echo... Echo...

HermitJim said...

It's nice to be around people that actually like to read and enjoy books. That seems to be the one common thread that runs through all the blogs that I follow.

Just the rambling thoughts of another loyal minion...

Anonymous said...

Survival is the objective correct? Then I suggest that Tragic hero does not and comic hero does.

We are going to have some very tough decisions as individuals in the coming tyranny.


Old Fart , Loyal Minion extraordinair.....

bb said...

A bit off topic, but since the great and omnipotent Bison draws such a diverse crowd, I thought this might be the place to inquire. Anyone know what happened to the "Down in the hills" blog guy? There's only a few I read anymore (obviously none compare to Master Bison, but diversity is necessary if one is to survive) and Down In The Hills was one. I sure hope the survival bloggers last longer than their blogs if tshtf.

curious bison cunt

mockum said...

Another fine post though you come off as one of those liberal pussy appeaser intellectuals. While the schlitz is hitting the fan, you're going to be gazing at the lint in your navel wondering whether you wanna be pathetic or comedic. Too late, you're a statistic.

Thales said...

"That was great. I read your blog every day and don't care where or how you live out your worldview. You have a great take on what's going on these days and the skulking dweebs who leave inane, caustic comments have nothing to offer."

It has nothing to do with where he lives, it has to do with lying about where you live.

He's never provided proof, however the address he has listed on his store is a trailer park, no doubt. It's a damn shame and sets the whole survivalist movement back when someone is blatantly dishonest.

I've removed BB from blogroll and hope anyone else who links to your site does the same.

-fin
Thales

Anonymous said...

I would like to recommend "The Good Soldier Svejk: and His Fortunes in the World War" as a great example of a comic hero, and a very enjoyable read. The original illustrations are wonderful, too, and will give you a feel for this terrific novel - see the 2nd link below, for examples of the illustrations.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140449914/bibliodyssey-20/

http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2008/07/good-soldier-vejk.html

-Amy

Anonymous said...

Thales, your failure to understand the vagaries of addresses assigned by the U.S. Postal Service (is it still called that?) shows that you're either from some other country, or you've lead a very sheltered life.

Community mailboxes, in which the mailboxes of everyone for miles around are located in a multi-box, individually locking unit that's conveniently located for delivery by the mail service (convenience for the recipients is not the determining factor) are very common in some parts of the country.

I lived for eleven years in a house located at an address that didn't exist. The front of the house faced where a possible future road would be located, so some numbskull assigned it an address on that then-nonexistent future road that, 45 years later, still doesn't exist. The original owners were told at the time that if people/delivery services had trouble finding it, they could appeal for a change of address. They didn't, but some later residents did.

The whole point of this rambling comment is that the location of a residence is not necessarily the same as its mailing address.

--Loyal Minion

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how someone can be in the u.s. military. I spoke with a man recently who was and asked him how he dealt with the different administrations. He said they didn't think about it, they just follow orders. Doesn't matter who's in office or what the orders are.

So if you're commanded to fire on innocent civilians when martial law is declared, you just do it?

Stuka-T said...

Bison provides valuable insight on how the vast majority of Americans (and anyone else, for that matter) who lack the yuppie bank accounts required to live in Rawles' Fantasy Land can possibly make do WTSHTF. Anyone who hangs on his every word and literally tries to clone his experience is a fool. Personally, I don't care if he lives in Ulan Bator, the info he provides is intelligently written and fun to boot. Some of it I take, and some of it I leave. Woody Guthrie, Vladimir Lenin and Joe Strummer all touted the cause of the Common Man, yet all 3 came from privileged backgrounds. So what?

Any attempt to rip the mask away from Bison merely comes off as jealous backbiting by ninnies with nothing to say. None of your (or any of the other would be debunkers) comments have convinced me that you have anything to add. Come up with your own schtick instead of sniping at someone else's. It's a long way to the top if you want to Rock And Roll.

Anonymous said...

To be honest, the comic hero is well represented in Hollywood, Maverick and the "Support your Local ..." movies come to mind. I have always identified with this type of survivor, pragmatic and low key. The tragic hero, on the other hand, only survives in the movies, rarely in real life.

Anonymous said...

Jim,
I can see why you try to write books. I feel you have real writing talent and you seem to be a grapho-maniac (like, you seem to be compelled to write and hence write a lot). Also, you like to read and seem to have a literary flair.

Anyway, don't be discouraged by your failures. Think of all your writings to be just practice for the later big-ones.

I enjoy your blogs. You seem to me to be more "real" than the other survivalist bloggers. By the way, if I had a hide-out somewhere in Nevada with a lot of supplies and food for survival, I wouldn't want to publish a picture of my redoubt to millions of my closest friends.

Anonymous said...

Thank the Lord,

For all the readers who thinks Jimbo is full of shit, now you will have at least two days a week to read something that may or may not be worthwhile.

Jim, I would like to applaud your decision to allow others to share some of their wisdom on your blog.

Now by my shit, oh wait I don't have any shit for sale.

Anonymous said...

To 7:04 AM
You think you see shit in Jim. However, what you are seeing is only the shit within yourself.

Thales said...

Having spoken with our local post master I'd like to inform you that they do not in fact issue numerical additions to a single address unless there are multiple units at a single address. Sorry to break it to you.

Put that glaring fact aside, there have been several people who say they know this guy and he DOES live in a trailer park. He could very easily end this entire discussion by taking pictures.

Why is it that anyone who doubts that this guy is telling the truth is suddenly a troll who is either jealous or ignorant? Last time I checked mindless drones who willingly refer to themselves as "loyal minions" can be counted among the truly ignorant.

And how would posting a picture of your home be any more dangerous than having it listed on your website?

Oh, and Stuka, I can't stand survivalblog. Making the assumption that because someone doesn't agree with your survival messiah they are rich yuppies is just plain stupid.

Again, I don't dispute the value of his information, I take an exception to someone who may be dishonest about their situation. An article written about a bleach-bottle shower is no less informative if written by someone in a trailer.

-Proud not to be anyone's loyal minion, able to function without being told what to do.-

-Thales

Anonymous said...

to 6:30 PM, Thales,
Many of your points are well taken, but in a way, the point about general area addresses misses the point. I have been in several '911' projects and real estate information projects, tracing addresses and helping in the conversion to so-called rational addresses which aren't really "rational" addresses either. In some rural areas, the post offices aren't too up-to-date on addresses, rational or otherwise. You'd be very surprised.

Also, concerning:
"And how would posting a picture of your home be any more dangerous than having it listed on your website?": I disgree in that it's one thing to give a general area and it's another thing to make your location obvious.

Also,concerning "honesty": who in their right mind is honest with themselves or anyone else. It may "set us free" but then again, it could kill us. I think this Jim Dakin character is trying to clue us in that he's the "Comic Hero" type, not the "Tragic Hero" type, which I feel most of us are. Anyway, the advice he gives is free. You get what you pay for. If it bothers you, just don't visit the sight anymore. If you continue to complain on his sight, well, that's your business, too.