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Wonder bread kids and the post collapse scenario.I have two of the little buggers in my family and when you are considering preps they make planning a lot more complicated and expensive. My kids are damn picky when it comes to eating and this will make adapting to survival storage foods much more unpleasant for them and for me. We have started grinding our own wheat for bread and while they enjoy being involved in the grinding process they don't care much for the bread. They have been raised on Wonder bread and everything else bleached and processed to the tenth degree. On occasion I can get them to eat white rice but it is not on their favorite list. They like pasta so I have included that in the storage plan but it is not the cheapest item on the shelf and to make it from whole wheat would not be easy or as appealing. Another item they can't stand is powdered milk, honestly I don't care for it either but I can put it down. I am going to look in to some of the powdered milk subsitutes but I am not sure they will be much better. Chocolate or other flavored additives might help but that just adds additional expense. They eat lot's of cheese but for long term storage there isn't a whole lot of choices that compare to a fresh brick of cheddar.For those who don't have kids or who have raised them on whole grain foods you are probably thinking just put it on the table and if they don't eat it, tough. Kids are going to be under a great deal of stress post collapse and I would like to see to it that going to bed hungry isn't added to list.I would prefer to ease them in to it so that it reduces risk of food allergies or other digestive problems. Hopefully I can get their diet preferences changed pre-collapse, making post collapse transition easier on the whole family and saving money to apply towards other preps. It will make my job of rotating the food storage easier as well.Chow,Familyman
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Great ideas. Getting them used to stuff now is essential. Also consider stuff like velveta and shells. Things that are sorta like food kids eat now but able to be stored for the long term.
Good post and works for us grown-ups too.
To get your kids to drink reconstituted dry milk. Start by mixing it 1/4 to 3/4 regular milk, in the milk container or a quart container, not in their glass (they will see you). Week by week, or longer, add more reconst. dry, less regular. Be sure the milk is COLD, maybe even adding an ice cube of frozen recont. dry, to each glass.
Same thing with whole wheat bread - make a sandwich with 1 1/2 slices white and 1/2 slice WW, work up to all WW - cut in shapes, etc to add interest.
Kids are usually picky because we've allowed them to be - I'm guilty too - so you must take time to undo it.
Bellen
Like the theory of easing them into MUST from the still-remaining choices of the day. A sincere Physiological "System Shock" is another mind-body link reason I agree.
Maybe soy milk? The beans are easy to grow; I've never looked into the conversion-to-milk process though...
Just My$.02
C.
"For those who don't have kids or who have raised them on whole grain foods you are probably thinking just put it on the table and if they don't eat it, tough."
If they are hungry they will eat, they aren't the only ones that will be stressed out.
Out of curiosity have you sat down with your children and explained why you are changing diet?
Do you do any gardening and get them to help you with it?
How does well does your family as a whole accept your prepping?
Do your kids have bolt action 22s and know how to use them?
On the bread topic have you considered potato bread?
Former Minion/Troll
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/18/business/LA-FIN-Peru-Potato-Bread.php
"made from one-third boiled and mashed potatoes and two-thirds wheat flour."
or you could go with sweet potatoes.
"If a beta-carotene contest were held, sweet potatoes would tie carrots for first place. That may make them top-notch for fighting chronic diseases like cancer and heart disease, as well as disease related to inflammation, such as asthma and rheumatoid arthritis. Sweet potatoes are also rich in potassium and vitamin C; a small potato provides almost half the daily allowance."
"This starchy vegetable has bulk to keep your tummy full for hours. Yet its nutritional profile makes the calories worth it, especially since they are fat-free. Its fiber alone is enough to make a sweet potato worth eating."
http://home.howstuffworks.com/sweet-potatoes3.htm
Congrats on being brave enough to be the guest author, what with all the trolls and such.
I'm storing a goodly amount of oatmeal, cinnamon, and sugar. At least my kids will get breakfast.
Oh, and mashed potato flakes. They'll eat almost anything with gravy on it.
Let us know how you ease them in to powdered milk. A no go so far at my house.
Old time California Gold Rush trick. Mix your powdered milk 24 hours before you drink it. Let it sit, cooled of course and then drink it. It's a lot closer to fresh milk that way and very good tasting.
Michael
You are correct that you need to get them used to it now.
When I started making bread a year ago, there is a BIG difference between wheat and white - I just gradually added more and more wheat until it wasnt really a difference anymore.
Same with the milk - I cook with it and I give it to them every now and then with their Nestle Quik. I know, I know, but that is how they drink it so I will continue with the purchase and use - its one of "their things" that could make difficult times more comfortable. They have occasion made a comment about it being a little different. I just shrug and say I bought a different brand and they continue to enjoy. It wasnt a total lie :)
anonymous 8:13 - if they are hungry children will NOT eat. It is proven they will starve themselves to death in stressful situations if they don't like the food.
If you still have children at home start storing what you all will eat and eat what you store.
Another suggestion on improving the taste of powdered milk.
For sure it will taste better chilled but a few drops of vanilla per glass can help offset that chalky taste.
Gary
My strategy is to store a lot of what people usually eat: about 3 months worth, with rotation. If the SHTF, then people will understand the necessity of transition to stored food either gradually or all at once. Kids, by the way, can literally get sick with a sudden change of diet.
I've got my kids "used" to the evaporated milk trick that James has posted here, use a can of milk with a can of water and chill in the fridge.5 Cans make a gallon. The problems are the color is a little off(tan) and you gotta shake the cans pretty good prior to opening(contents settle a little). I use this trick when we forget to buy a gallon after work.
Luckily my kids like rice and pasta,they're actually taking to quit a bit of prep food. They actually like wheatbread but thats because my oldest thought I said "SWEETbread" so now its a treat for both of them,they think its great at least for now.
Jay
Thanks to the author, good points.
One of mine is super picky.
Find some good recipes for beans and rice from a Mexican.
Store chocolate and other reward foods.
Forget soy milk, soy is harmful.
In asia it is used as a CONDIMENT not a main course food.
More B.S. form big agri. Its cheaper for them to make soy milk and soy burgers than cow milk and cow burgers.
DW
I STAND WITH ISRAEL!
Once again Ryan flaunts his ignorance for all to see!
On June 8, 1967, 34 American sailors of the USS Liberty lost their lives serving their country. These Americans died when Israel, America's "ally," launched a murderous attack on the virtually unarmed American intelligence ship. To this day, many Americans are unaware that this attack even took place. Recently, PRAVDA.Ru had the opportunity to interview Mr. Hrankowski, a survivor and crew member of the USS Liberty.
Here Ryan, go here:
http://www.rense.com/general26/ally.htm
@ anon 5:52
could you provide some links in regards to the fact children will starve themselves during stressful situations?
Former Minion/Troll
Anon5.52...you can dream all you want of kids starving themselves to death rather than eat what they don't like- it may be that way in African nations where the food is a totally foreign fare. But not in the 'States.
What you're saying is the same as telling someone 'their kid won't work if he doesn't want to'. Lib thinking. When those unworking, uneating kids learn there's a relationship between work and eating and eating or starving, they'll work and they'll eat. Of course, that only 'works' when the parent actually enforces the rules, rather than give in to the whining- or lets them whine.
Gee
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