Monday, March 23, 2009

ammo blues

AMMO BLUES
My first thought today was, Happy Friggin Monday. I love it when my kids call me on the weekend, they always have amusing adventures to report ( my son managed to burn his boots in the camp fire ) and it goes a long way towards filling in their absence. The only bad part is that we gab for hours on end and before I know it the day is shot to hell and that just brings the work week around that much quicker. Some weeks I simply don't want to be here which you can all relate to. My second thought was to do an article on the big story of the weekend, everyone talking about the Rolling Stone article on the corporate power grab of the government through bail out funds. Instead, I'll just give it a quick look here and we can move on to other matters. And, for the record, this is a knee jerk reaction and I didn't completely read the whole thing.
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Rolling Stone is a typical liberal government cheerleader. Republicans are evil corporate ass kissing stoolies and Democrats are only out for the little people and want to help the worker with Union wages and the oppressed minorities with entitlements, blah blah. While I hate the Republicans myself, I also hate the Democrats. Both buy off certain opposing groups with tax money. If you vote for either you are voting against individualism and for Big Government. End of story. No grey, just black and white here. Compassion for anyone equals destruction of my paycheck which equals irreplaceable units of my life stolen from me. I have nothing against private welfare, church welfare, or beneficial societies. I do oppose compulsory compassion. So, the Rolling Stone article is simply more anti-business, pro interventionist propaganda. Plus, it is nonsense. I like conspiracy theories, but they have to be credible. I don't think this one is. Big business buys and sells Congressmen. They aren't engineering a fake economic meltdown to take control of the government. First off, they need government as a patsy to do their unpopular bidding. The target of painful actions thus becomes the government and the businesses can act innocent. Two, businesses need government to protect them with the monopoly of force. They act to keep competitors in line. You want to have a friend in government, not necessarily to run it. It is cheaper to bribe the government than to perform the acts of force yourself.
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We all know the current problems with the national ammunition supply. Chronic shortages and rising prices. Now, here is a conspiracy I can get behind. The government endlessly prints money to buy up all the ammunition for use by the military and causes the civilian supply to implode. This then becomes de facto gun control. Everybody owns a semi-automatic. Groovy, we can withstand the coming dictatorship. Oops, a small problem, Houston. We can't buy more than a few boxes of ammo for them. Elect the black guy, everyone freaks out and causes more shortages by stripping the shelves in a panic about the coming gun control. And while this is going on, attention has been diverted from the coming food shortages. Gun control or not, it doesn't matter. We will be starved out with no ammunition. We've forgotten that there is more than one way to skin a cat.
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If you had been listening to me you would have concentrated on bolt actions and revolvers and the current magazine and ammunition crisis would not be effecting you. If you listen to me about the food and stock up on grain now, you can sail through the coming food shortages. I'm not psychic or necessarily more intelligent, but I can think logically. Yes, at times it hurts. The good thing is that I won't have to wait fifty years to be vindicated. I'd give it five. Okay, my timing has always been off, but not the general direction of events. You can't do a damn thing about ammo prices if you've waited too long. But you can actually get enough on a budget if you stick with the ammo stingy weapons. Bolt actions and revolvers. Mass manufacturing and affordable commodities is swiftly coming to an end. This includes affordable ammunition and grain. Buy as much as you can, but don't waste your limited resources. Semi-autos waste your money and then they waste your limited amount of ammunition. You don't need them. It will be harder to accomplish the same task with a more primitive tool, but it can be done.
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24 comments:

julie said...
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Anonymous said...

That was close. I'm with you on the ammunition thing. That's why I'm pouring all my discretionary income ($7.33/month) into 1/8" ball bearings. I use them in my slingshot. For real. They are 250 for $2.99.

I'm deadly inside of 8 feet.

DEADLY.



-Humongous

Anonymous said...

your car may be able to run at 120 mph, but you don't always drive it that fast do you?
your semi auto rifle may be ABLE to shoot 400 rounds a minute but it doesn't HAVE to. the choice is up to you.
my semi auto rifles will shoot only 1 shot at a time just like a bolt action rifle. but then again if I am in a situation where I WANT to shoot 10 shots a minute, I can!
the tool doesn't dictate the rate of fire the operator does!
jpf

Anonymous said...

Nice post James.

Humongous umungus, I have one of theose wrist guided sling shots, The freakin thing is deadly at 8 feet.

Oh yeah make sure you don't have a Ron Paul bumper Sticker or mention the Word CONSTITUTION becasue the fed will label you a terrorist and put on "THE LIST"!!!!


Old Fart

Anonymous said...

"Rolling Stone is a typical evil... corporate ass kissing stoolies"

amen.

"If you vote for either (RETHUGLICAN OR DEMONCRAP) you are voting against individualism and for Big Government."

I think the BIGGER PROBLEM, isn't so much the size of government nor the tax rates, but rather HOW MUCH IS SQUANDERED, STOLEN, or WASTED... the point is the arguement shouldn't be not how far the government should stick the boot up our ass, but, why is it such a good idea for the government to piss away the treasury on the big corporations and the ruling class.

and, i did say, ruling class, bozo. do you really think they are serious about all the freedom and individuality talk ?

Anonymous said...

Sorry jpf..........

its neither the tool NOR the operator, its the situation!

Anonymous said...

Sorry Jim, but semi-autos are a must.
How many LEO's carry revolvers these days, how many soldiers are carrying bolt actions? Not many. The ammo conservation argument doesn't hold up. Discipline will conserve ammo in non combat situations. In a fight I will want as many rounds available as possible and as quickly as possible.

The magazines and possibly the weapon itself can be considered an investment. In a ban era the magazines will probably double or triple in price like they did during the last ban.

The ammo shortage shouldn't be affected by either of the Assault Weapons Bans proposed. I did hear that there is some lawmakers proposing restrictions on ammo and some other weird ideas about self-expiring ammo, etc. which could be causing people to stock pile.

I think the more likely cause is the fact that so many more weapons have been sold recently and when you buy a weapon you buy ammo so that would probably explain a lot of the shortage. Then there is the guys like us who like to stock pile just about everything ammo included. One last thing is ammo inflation. the price for ammo has increased dramatically in the last few years. People may be just fighting further inflation by stocking up.

I hope the ammo shortage will alleviate itself soon. I am waiting for a back order of 500 rounds of 154gr SP from a big name sporting goods outfit. They are expecting to fill the order in April but we will see.

vlad said...
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Anonymous said...

Today, your blog and commenters are missing a big point. There is a must-have must-store barter item which many would consider essential: cigarettes and bulk tobacco!!! As of April 1, 2009, for each pound of loose tobacco, the government will be charging not $1.10 per pound but $24.78 per pound. (1 pound of tobacco can make about 500 cigarettes). For every pack of cigarettes, you will be paying 61 cents more for a grand total of $1.19 per pack of cigarettes. Ammo, Shmammo... you need to stock up on tobacco now! Tobacco will keep if placed in a clean, air tight container. 5 gallon plastic buckets full?

The benefits of tobacco use are many in a survival situation. Tobacco and tobacco products can be good barter items. Also, tobacco use can, at least for awhile, stave off feelings of hunger. Also, if you are a drinker and a smoker, some studies indicate that in harsh conditions, you are less likely to commit suicide.

Anonymous said...

5:23

GET A FU***** BRAIN!!!!!

vlad said...
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vlad said...

http://www.icehouse.net/fgrig/gun/REDDOT.TXT

excerpts
"The velocities obtained with 13 grs. of Red Dot appear mild, but "The Load" is no pipsqueak! In a case like the .308 or .30-'06, you get (from a 24" sporter barrel) about 1450 f.p.s. with a 200 gr. cast bullet, 1500 with a 170-gr., or 1600 with a 150-gr. cast load. "The Load" is fully comparable to "yesterday's deer rifle", the .32-40, and provides good expansion of cheap, soft alloys (10-13 BHN) at woods ranges. Jacketed bullet velocities
with "The Load" are about 120-150 f.p.s. less than a lubricated lead bullet of the same weight. "
and " Wheelweights also work well, as do soft "Scheutzen" alloys such as 1:25 tin/lead. in bores of 8 mm or larger. "The Load" drives soft-cast .30-cal. to 8 mm bullets fast enough to get expansion, but
without fragmenting. These out-penetrate factory .30-30
softpoints, and kill medium game up to 150 lbs. well at short ranges up to 100 yards, when placed accurately. In medium and large bores like the .375 H&H or .45-70, "The Load" gives typical black powder ballistics for the bore. A 255-265 gr. cast bullet in the .375 H&H approximates the .38-55 at 1330 f.p.s. Soft 300-
405-gr. cast bullets are pushed at 1300-1350 f.p.s. from a 22" barrel .45-70, sporter are very effective on deer at woods ranges. Cast bullets over .35 cal. do not have to expand appreciably to work well on game if blunt and heavy for their caliber. "


WAG at cost of 45-70 cast reloads
components per Midwayusa mar 18 09
IMR4064..1 lb...21.49...129 54 gr...17 c
Red Dot..1 lb .15.79....538 13 gr....3 c
CCI 200 LR primers 1k....27.99.....2.8 c

Buffalo Arms cast bullets
.458 405 FN.....26.99 for 50....54 c
wheelweights
25 cents per lb....17 400 gr/ lb .. 2 c

Buffalo reload
54c bullet
17c powder
3c primer
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74 cents
...wheelweight reloads........
2c bullet ..,.400 gr.....
3c powder..13 gr red dot...
3c primer....CCI 200.....
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8 cents


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vlad said...

Learn fields of fire in your AO
24 inches from nose to navel on average man
Truck odometer graduated in 1/10 mi
1/10 = 176 yards
2/10 = 352 yards
per nr 10 Speer loading manual
Marlin 1895 45-70 22" barrel
Speer 400 gr jacketed FN BC .214
MV......100.......200.......300.....400.....500
1700... +8.........poa......-34......-100.....-208
MV.......50...100...150....200....250
1300....+5...+6......poa...-14....-38
1000....+9...+10....poa....-21....-54
Ruger Nr 1 22" barrel 45-70
MV......100...150......200....250
2100....+3.....poa......-6......-16
Rem 700 22" barrel 30-06
Speer 165 gr spitzer BT BC .477
MV......100......200.....300.....400...500
2700....+5.......+6.......poa....-13....-35
SMLE 25" barrel 303 Brit
150 gr spitzer bc 411
mv........100.....200.....300....400....500
2500......+6.......+7.......poa...-17....-45
180 gr RN bc .304
mv.......50.....100....150....200....250
1500...+3.....+5......poa....-10......-27
1000....+8.....+9.....poa...-20......-50

Anonymous said...

Very clear, succinct and convincing explanation of the political party environment and government/corporation situation in the U.S. -- without subscription to a full-on conspiracy theory about "global elites" or supranationalist financiers.

Seems logical and based on observation of history and current situations.

Good work.

Anonymous said...

Thanks VLAD!

useful

DW

Anonymous said...

It's easy to see Jim knows little of what he is talking about. When it comes to guns he is totally lost and his great ideas on food storage will have you dead of malnutrition in short order. Has he ever tryed to live on just wheat - every day for a year, two, five I didn't think so. People if you continue to listen to this fool he will lead you to a life of failure and misery or death.

As the saying go's misery loves company, Jim will take you down with him. Run, run like hell away from this dumbass and seek out outher more realistic survival advice. Don't die with this fool.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to see Jim knows little of what he is talking about. When it comes to guns he is totally lost and his great ideas on food storage will have you dead of malnutrition in short order. Has he ever tryed to live on just wheat - every day for a year, two, five I didn't think so. People if you continue to listen to this fool he will lead you to a life of failure and misery or death.

As the saying go's misery loves company, Jim will take you down with him. Run, run like hell away from this dumbass and seek out outher more realistic survival advice. Don't die with this fool.

JWR

Anonymous said...

Ultimately, no matter whose advice you follow, you're going to be dead. The situation is that serious.

Shy Wolf said...

Life being a terminal ocupation, my suggestion is to stock up on arrows. $30 a dozen, easily reuseable and have no expiration date. Not to mention, but I will, any component of an arrow can be fabricated in the field with very few tools. Of course, the skill has a much more steep learning curve than a firearm and needs constant refreshing. Still, when TSHits, it'll be a great asset.
.02c.
Shy III

Anonymous said...

Even if Rawles thought that about Dakin, he wouldn't waste his time saying it. That is left for small minded people with petty agendas and not much more important things to do with their time than misspell the word 'other'.

Dakin may be off on some things, but he is probably correct in more than he's wrong about. And most importantly, he offers a place for me to go where people that I want to glean info from exist. And he's got a sense of humor. That is so important when dealing with things of this nature. Personally, I loved JWR's book, but his site isn't very compelling to me. There isn't as much personality to hang your hat on. Not to introduce a standoff between the two. Oh boy, this is nosediving fast. Eject, eject!


-Humongous

Anonymous said...

I second Shy wolfs advice on obtaining and learning how to use a bow for hunting. But I am still convinced that semi autos are going to be your only chance in a fight.

Anonymous said...

Gee, just because I read Dakin's site doesn't mean that I don't read others. Also, Gee, I can think for myself and evaluate anyone's advice. I am responsible for my own destiny.

Anonymous said...

Hi Anon 5:29. Its me again. I would know that adorable foul mouth anywhere. I am still dreaming of you.

vlad said...

Put the bottle of Lee Liquid Alox
cast bullet lube in a cup of very hot water for a few minutes and it pours faster. Lube in the spout will gel. I keep a 7/8" piece of nail the spout to clean it.