OIL LIFE AND TIMING
Before we start, and before I forget, an update as requested on the Great Bison Compound Insulation Project. I finished up the weekend following my write up, thank goodness. It had started taking on Giant Pain In The Ass aspects. I'll still do a bit here and there such as stuffing more blankets in the underneath bins ( they're on notice to give me any ripped and soiled blankets otherwise thrown away ) but that is five minutes here and there, not like the sixteen hours it took for the main work. I did pretty good for back of a napkin guesstimating the needed materials. I used all the foam pads, all eight rolls of foil bubble wrap except about ten feet worth and all but six blankets. I only had three cold mornings to gauge the effective winterizing so that will have to wait until the end of the year ( I'm hoping for a repeat of tripling the old insulation's effectiveness but will still be happy with doubling ) to confirm, and I've only had one warm day. It got up to eighty and even without the foil in the south windows it stayed at seventy five. Not too shabby, I'm happy with the performance so far.
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A loyal minion asked about picking a cooking oil. The best shelf life amongst lard, shortening or oil. I imagine they did just as I did and Googled it, and I can't say I've got a really good answer. Everyone seemed to be guessing at it. Even the folks at Crisco. Well, I'll tell you what I came up with and my own experiences. I hope it helps a little. You need cooking oil in your preps. Spoiled Yuppie swine living in the reclining bucket seat of an SUV, the reclining office chair in their cubical and the reclining chair in front of their fifty inch plasma TV have no idea of the need for fat in ones diet. They carry enough fat around their middle to do without fat for quite some time. But take away petroleum and suddenly they will need fat in their diets to keep them alive. My point is that central air and heat keep them separated from the realities of diet and climate, not that they don't eat enough fat. Of course, a lot of that extra weight might be from alcohol as they try in vain to short circuit their awareness that they live a hollow and worthless existence since they are silly enough to measure happiness with little slips of paper from the Federal Reserve. But I won't go there right now.
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As far as anyone can guess, liquid vegetable oil has a shelf life of about a year. I'm sure I've used oil that is over a year old. We can probably safely say one to a maximum of three years. I'm sure three is pushing it, remember these are guesstimates. Also, come calamity time, you might do little more than give it a sniff test and feed some to the dog. If he hasn't erupted out of both ends in 24 hours it should be safe. You will be more worried about lack of oil than about official shelf lives. Next in longevity is lard. I couldn't find any estimates, but I have used lard I know was at least two years old and stored at room temperature ( that's in the trailer with large seasonal fluctuations ). I would feel comfortable using lard that is three to five years old. Crisco claims a shelf life of six to ten years. I might have believed that back when they used an honest to God metal sealed tin, but now in an effort to screw over the consumer and have the CEO retire to the Caribbean with a harem we get that crappy waxed cardboard container. Kind of like how potato flakes pre-Y2K were in a metal tin and now they are a simple cardboard box ( for a higher price ). Anyway, I'd give Crisco no more than five or six years personally. And I do not want to hear any troll spouting off about hydrogenated fats. It is going to be the end of civilization. You won't care about long term health problems when you could be starving, and you will be working off all the fat you consume.
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Now to timing. This sort of ties in with yesterdays post. Back in the day when global nuclear war was on everyone's minds, back when communists were evil shifty guys you couldn't trust instead of our current economic butt buddies, back when the military had a real enemy instead of an invented one ( just referring to the false flag attack 9/11, not aimed at our boys overseas so relax ), we had a different level of anxiety. Or so it seems to me anyway. You always heard the phrase it was better to be a year too early than a minute too late. I guess back then it was patriotic to prep, since you were saving the tax payers money by paying for it, plus being part of the ( presumed ) surviving unorganized militia ( how times have changed ). Now that it would harm the account balance of the banks to be self sufficient rather than perpetually in debt preppers are scorned. Is that why no one is willing to appear to be the fool and prepare a year too early? Is it now uncool? Are you giving in to peer pressure? Be honest with yourself now. You can lie to your spouse and your friends and coworkers but at least try to be honest with yourself.
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I'm aware one size doesn't fit all. We are all unique and have different circumstances. But try to honestly assert your situation. Don't fall for your own hype. It's called believing your own press releases and it usually comes before the fall. I'm not judging, just trying to guide.
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Thursday, April 23, 2009
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As with just about all prep foods if you keep them cooler than ambiant tempature they will store/ last longer.
Old Fart
I've heard of people canning butter. No idea how long this will last. Anyone?
Dutch
Ghee is made by simmering unsalted butter in a large pot until all water has boiled off and protein has settled to the bottom. The cooked and clarified butter is then spooned off to avoid disturbing the milk solids on the bottom of the pan. Unlike butter, ghee can be stored for extended periods without refrigeration, provided it is kept in an airtight container to prevent oxidation and remains moisture-free.[2] Texture, colour, or taste of ghee depends on the source of the milk from which the butter was made and the extent of boiling. In India, ghee is usually made with water buffalo's milk as it tends to be whiter than cow's milk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghee
it tastes 'different' so you might not like it, and you can get it much cheaper in asian/indian markets than health food stores...
Once again, Fakin Dakin ponitificates while seated in The Great Fluffy Armchair of Ignorance!!!
The shelf life of cooking oil is keyed to ***temperature***. It should be stored frozen until the Shit Hits the Fan. (Most of the plastic bottles have enough expansion room--DONT try to do this with glass bottles.) After your chest freezer assumes room temperature (and when we all go: "I told you so" to our Ostrich Relatives), the clock starts ticking. Especially in a hot summer climate like Nevada, you will be lucky to have it last a year without going rancid. Dakin is dreaming when he says three years. He must have pulled that figure out of his ass.
2:33 Please crawl back in your moms basement and leave us alone.
I have canned butter and kept in my root cellar at 55 degrees for two and three years with no dicernable degradation in taste. I recently followed 'Ol Remis's' cheese spread recipe and am looking forward to suing the cheese over the next several years.
Old Fart
"Is that why no one is willing to appear to be the fool and prepare a year too early? Is it now uncool?"
hoarding food in the closet and under your bed is cool ? try BORING, regardless of the appropriatness.....
of course, an awful lot of people are EXPECTING Obammy to "fix the economy", and bring back the good times... i suspect they will be waiting a long time untill they'll have forgotten what they were waiting for...
so basically when you tell your 'friend', 'neighbor', 'relative' that your stockpiling and preparing for a different future of shortages and dispruptions rather than the "gov't check is in the mail" and the "gov't is going to create lots of high paying jobs" for their equally retarded children ... well, that makes you a terrorist, your making the sheeple feel uncomfortable, your terrorizing them and their expectations for a new fun OBAMA LAND theme park.
Well coconut oil is not only the best for your health it is also the longest storing vegetable oil. Virgin coconut oil is generally considered to last 3+ years. Apparently quality and cleanliness make a difference.
However as Wikipedia states about fractionated coconut oil- "Because it is completely saturated, fractionated oil is even more heat stable than other forms of coconut oil and has a nearly indefinite shelf life"
Many over the counter food products have fractionated coconut oil in them to help preserve them as a matter of fact. Sometimes labeled as MCTs, caprylic or lauric acid.
The whole media campaign against saturated fats were lies sponsored by American vegetable oil companies. The truth is you NEED saturated fats in your diet to be healthy and they are actually good for your health in a natural state.
After saying all of that the obvious downside is coconut oil especially virgin or fractionated is very expensive. $40-$70 a gallon.
For most budget survivalists lard is probably the best (healthiest) cheap fat. Gee aren't I lucky I have a coconut farm and a hand crank oil expeller :D Not to mention those pigs in the back yard.
A word to the wise- keeping temperatures stable helps prolong the shelf life of any food. And for every 10 degrees lower your storing temp you can expect roughly a doubling of shelf life. So get that underground storage room built!
Anon 2:33 PM
James said 1 to a max. of 3 years and added a warning.
We can probably safely say one to a maximum of three years. I'm sure three is pushing it, remember these are guesstimates.
I learned something today,thank you. I didn't realize that "cooking oil experts" were total assholes. How did you become a cooking oil expert ? Do you use it as a lubricant ? What should other retards like yourself use when the SHTF and run out of cooking oil ? Spit ? Please enlighten us with your vast knowledge of lubricants.Maybe you should start your own blog,I'm sure there are enough analists out there who will value your comments. It's obvious that you have pulled a lot of "things" out of your ass. Make the world a better place...LEAVE.
Anonymous 4:18 PM,
Fuck you and the bitch you road in on. I have just as much of a right to be here as you or anyone else, so go fuck yourself or your mother, that is if you can get that nigger dick out of her mouth long enough.
You fucking prick. I hope you fucking die. I hope your fucking kids die a fucking awful death. Fucking little retarded bastards.
Jim boy you are no better, you fucking worthless prick. Can't keep a fucking wife. Your children hate you, and you look like fucking Frankenstein you ugly prick, fucking bum. Your 4th or was it your 5th wife left, probably for a real man one that could make a live and get a fucking hard on. You limp dick fucking asshole.
You are the worst fucking writer that I have ever fucking had the misfortune to fucking read. Most of you fucking shit could be summed up in one fucking paragraph no no you try to be funny and stretch the fucking shit out to three pages of drivel.
Damn you fucking bunch a worthless pricks. This Dude is not some sort of survival God. He is just some asshole live in a little trailer, because he is to fucking lazy to get a real job and a real home. A fucking failure in life and this is what you all hope to become? This is you fucking role model? Fuck you all need fucking help. Fuck!
Anon 4:52 PM
Are you lonely ?
Anon 5:26 PM
If you are trying to make fun of me ,FUCK YOU !
oh my, ain't we sensitive today?
4:52 likes to dish it out but sure is a cry baby when some comes back at her! wah,waah,waaaa.
I'm not making fun of you. I just don't see why you're so angry.
I'm not an angry person, i just don't like being picked on.
I grow my own special sunflowers for the oil that can be expelled from the seeds. No brainer, and you can expel the oil as you need it. It is a renewable resource, can be used for composting, animal feed and the sunflowers require very little effort.
By the way, why do you tolerate just trolls? They ruin a perfectly great blog.
What do you expect people to do when you talk bad about James. We come here because find James to be informative and we enjoy a good laugh.Maybe if you changed your attitude people would like you.Nobody is perfect,we all make mistakes,I'm not making fun of you. I think we should help each other. If you know a better way of doing things then why don't you be polite about it ? If you have something to contribute then do it in a way that doesn't offend everybody. OK ? Bad times are coming we need to stick together and not bicker.I'm glad that a least a few people are prepping.I have more in common with the survivalists here than I do with my family. Think it over.
I agree we shouldn't fight with one another.Exchanging information and ideas would be better.I've learned a lot here from James and from his readers.
I'm worried about the "solutions" Obammy is going implement. Gov. solutions always mean I have fewer rights and less money. I think it will be harder to get the hell out of Dodge in the future.Something bad is going to happen.Get ready.
This is the BLACK DOG here. I just stopped over at Creedmoor’s blog. Nothing but chicken shit white pussy there. Looks like the same here. You little white fucks can run but you cant hide. I’ll fuck you in the ass to. then you can cook my dinner with your preps. Your cabin (or trailer) can be a sex fest heaven I’ll fuck your hole family…. You Bitch by night and camp cook by day. You think your little guns will stop me?????? I’m one bad mother fucker, 6’8” 290 ill push open the door to your little hut then you the BITCH.
Anon 6:59 PM
Greetings Black Dog. Nice to meet you.Come on over,I have plenty of cooking oil and I'm lonely.
Oil won’t help you I have 12’ of black pride to straighten out all you George Washington white pussy winners!!!! I’ll smite all you holnkes with my mighty cock!!! Then take your food!!!! And your DAUGHTER!!!!
Anon 7:27 PM
Shouldn't you be getting ready for bed ? You don't want to be late for school in the morning.Good night.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous 4:18 PM,
Fuck you and the bitch you road in on. I have just as much of a right to be here as you or anyone else, so go fuck yourself or your mother, that is if you can get that nigger dick out of her mouth long enough.
You fucking prick. I hope you fucking die. I hope your fucking kids die a fucking awful death. Fucking little retarded bastards.
Jim boy you are no better, you fucking worthless prick. Can't keep a fucking wife. Your children hate you, and you look like fucking Frankenstein you ugly prick, fucking bum. Your 4th or was it your 5th wife left, probably for a real man one that could make a live and get a fucking hard on. You limp dick fucking asshole.
You are the worst fucking writer that I have ever fucking had the misfortune to fucking read. Most of you fucking shit could be summed up in one fucking paragraph no no you try to be funny and stretch the fucking shit out to three pages of drivel.
Damn you fucking bunch a worthless pricks. This Dude is not some sort of survival God. He is just some asshole live in a little trailer, because he is to fucking lazy to get a real job and a real home. A fucking failure in life and this is what you all hope to become? This is you fucking role model? Fuck you all need fucking help. Fuck!
4:52 PM
Anonymous said... SEE that’s just like all you dumb white mother fuckers you can fight amongst your self and when the the dust settles, I’ll kick in the door to your little hut and fuck you in the ass. Then you can cook me dinner you little white bitches. I punked whites like you when I was up-state they talked tuff then cried like a bitch. not one of there white punk friends stepped in to stop it. They would get the full love’n of the BLACK DOG too. My brother is the PRES. Now you the BITCH.
OH please let me be the first to hump Blackdog after you blow his
very sexy 6'8" knees off....I just love to grease down my black brothers before I insert Mr. Tigger.
OH please let me be the first to hump Blackdog after you blow his
very sexy 6'8" knees off....I just love to grease down my black brothers before I insert Mr. Tigger.
""Anon 7:27 PM
Shouldn't you be getting ready for bed ? You don't want to be late for school in the morning.Good night.""
You don’t know what your dealing with you little white punk. You think your bad????
I know I am !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets meet. Then you can see what BAD MUTHER FUCKER is .
IM at 34567 Lane Rd Fresno Ca. lets see you come over and bring your mouth!!!
PUNK!
You little white punks now you gonna bring a gun good I got guns to bring it on BITCH!!!!!
BLACK DOG out!!!!
I like your penis and ho ho’s too. I love young bitches with blond hair and shaved pussy.
I’m coming for your daughter. But you wont stop me you chicken shit white pussy.
BLACK DOG.
James, one year early is no big deal, but I think you're a decade early. Peak Oil won't kick in for a decade (just look at how quickly the oil reserves are piling up). Global Warming is underway but, still, the damage won't be felt for a while. The economy is shaky but we've got a real long way down to go before the SHTF.
But, if you're happy with your situation, it doesn't really matter does it? Me, I keep eyeballing the nest egg and will jump in a couple years.
The troll says; "I need youoooo, yes I doooooo".
Glad you are a dedicated reader of this site,troll. Keep commenting here so we know your still addicted to Jim's medicine.
Please read tomorrow's posting and tell us again how "only a loser (like me) would visit this site".
Addiction (co-dependancy) has treatment options, in case you wondered about how to break free of Jim's psychological grip on you.
On second thought, maybe it would be best if you just "ended it all" tonight. We'll all miss you, but we know you have better places to be.
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Hello ladies and gents my blog will be up and running when I get time, then you can get survival tips from a true Obama supporter and a firm believer in socialism. I’ve been living off the government for years, and I know the inns’ and out’s.
Lay low and live well,
B.D.
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Black Dog or Mr.Cooking Oil Expert whatever you call yourself thanks for the laugh.I'll be sure to check out your blog.
Take care, Ho Hos Man
Oh wait,what's that ? Is that..? YESSS ! My song is Playing ! where did I put Jim's picture ?
This is for you James:
I don't need a lot of things
I can get by with nothing
Of all the blessings life can bring
I've always needed something
But I've got all I want
When it comes to loving you
You're my only reason
You're my only truth
I need you like water
Like breath, like rain
I need you like mercy
From heaven's gate
There's a freedom in your arms
That carries me through
I need you
You're the hope that moves me
To courage again
You're the love that rescues me
When the cold winds, rage
And it's so amazing
'cause that's just how you are
And I can't turn back now
'cause you've brought me too far
I need you like water
Like breath, like rain
I need you like mercy
From heaven's gate
There's a freedom in your arms
That carries me through
I need you
Oh yes I do
I need you like water
Like breath, like rain
I need you like mercy
From heaven's gate
There's a freedom in your arms
That carries me through
I need you
Oh yes I do
I need you
I need you
See ya James ! Ho Hos Man
Have you ever noticed that people with brains don't need to curse and threaten others. People respect them for their knowledge - not their filthy mouth.
I totally ignore anything this scum of the earth has to say. His dictionary obviously doesn't go beyond F. Certainly haven't seen him sharing his experiences with others freely to help them like Jim has.
So much for all his lame threats. Yes, STUPID we are all laughing AT you NOT with you.
Mr. Dakin
I feel that it would upgrade your site a lot if you would start limiting your commenters to the subject matter of your site.
I don't always agree with your articles, but do find some of them to be enlightening on certain subjects, and to a degree, sometimes humorous.
I also derive some benefit from some comments, but don't have the time to dig for the good stuff out of a bunch of drivel.
""" Anonymous said...
Mr. Dakin
I feel that it would upgrade your site a lot if you would start limiting your commenters to the subject matter of your site.
I don't always agree with your articles, but do find some of them to be enlightening on certain subjects, and to a degree, sometimes humorous.
I also derive some benefit from some comments, but don't have the time to dig for the good stuff out of a bunch of drivel.
6:53 AM"""
Well said lets clean it up out there you little PUKES.
BD
Jimbo:
How about MODERATING your blog's comments, instead of letting them run rampant?
Oh, but that would be too much WORK. And you've told us how much effort you are willing to put into your blog.
Quote: “””Anonymous said...
Jimbo:
How about MODERATING your blog's comments, instead of letting them run rampant?
Oh, but that would be too much WORK. And you've told us how much effort you are willing to put into your blog.
8:19 AM”””
Ok now your getting out line. Why don’t you say what you mean; Stop the black from speaking -up, blacks not allowed here, or move to the back of the bus..
That’s what you meant to say isn’t it?
BD
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I get and use butter flavored Crisco which seems to last indefinitely. I haven't had any go bad on me, yet. Once the can is opened, probably they should be refrigerated or kept in as cool and as clean a place as possible. I use the stuff as butter.
Also, from time to time, someone mentions peanut butter. I find peanut butter a very good source of oil and protein, and unopened, can last for 2 years, at least in my house. I buy small jars as to not to have large, unopened jars around for a long time. I like plastic jars as they don't break. If the SHTF, then I will be using more beans and relying on the fact that whole, shelled corn has a lot of oil. Wheat also has some oil. Dry milk, in enough quantity, can give a great start. Buckwheat and rye can grow on poor soil and produce a crop in a short time.
We are heading for very experimental times. No one for sure knows what will work and what won't work. Probably about 80% of the things I think will work won't work, at least to some extent. It pays to prepare for lots of options in lots of ways.
looks like Jim's turn to kick the bucket, first. :>) but, never fear (OBB) obammy and the butt boys are secretly working to genetically modify the gladisil vaccine so guys won't get cervical cancer, hurrah ! we'll all saved.....
Mexico Races to Stop Deadly Flu Virus
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124058255179552887.html
"Officials believe it is the same strain that sickened eight people in Southern California and Texas..."
Is it a pandemic ?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04252009/news/regionalnews/fears_of_deadly_new_mex_flu_come_to_qns__166171.htm
"New York City health officials say about 75 students at a Queens high school have fallen ill with flu-like symptoms and testing is under way to make sure they're not stricken with the deadly type of swine flu that is ravaging Mexico and has sparked fears of a pandemic."
BLACKDOG did you forget your meds again ???
really, what kind of survival strategy is welfare fraud ? like is the government really going to be around in 2 years handing out checks to the proletariats, instead of sending the taxpayers money to the elite for the upkeep on their yachts?
wake up fool, were you born in Watts or something ? btw, the white folks didn't like you even before they found out you we're a gay black fag with a 2 inch penis, race doesn't have anything to do with it.
as to SOCIALISM, well we already have that. just go listen to the old folk piss and moan about 'universal health fraud'. mostly their upset that medifraud benefits are being rationed and like typical americans they don't give a fuck about anybody else besides themeselves..
This may be pure BS but interesting as it seems to be an honest attempt at prediction of the implications of a "Swine Flu Epidemic". Just a warning, Stephen Harris is trying to sell something based of fear-mongering. Still, interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASilZYe3dn4
Blackdog, I sent over some salve for the beardburn I left on your back last night. I hope it helps. I've been thinking you're right, you really should be my bitch on a regular basis.
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