Friday, July 31, 2009

rafting retreat

RAFTING RETREAT
I believe there has been one book, probably about twenty years old now, on sailing as a survival strategy. For us land lubbers, this was never a viable option. However, as I have mentioned previously, inland water vessels are within our grasp. You don't have to know about strange things such as lee or starboard ( forgive me if I'm off on my terms, having been a grunt rather than a squid ), topknots or other doohickies. Plus, you can eliminate the expenses involved in ocean going ships. I know there is at least one group that pretty much lives at sea most of the time, down in the tropics somewhere. South China Sea, perhaps? This has allowed some kind of autonomy in an area not known for its celebration of individuals ( at least on the mainland rice growing areas ). They trade with islanders, get repair and building materials. That doesn't sound like too harsh of an existence. But they have a tribal support system. I wouldn't really want to be a lone individual sailing the seven seas. Don't get me wrong, I think I could do the whole hermit thing rather easily. But "Waterworld" keeps coming to my mind, your boat is destroyed and your only option is to bob in the water for a few days until you are shark food. On land, not only is it a lot cheaper, but you can escape and restart if needed with a much better chance of escape.
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But fresh water boating doesn't have the disadvantages of salt water escape. Granted, you forego the major advantage which is total escape from all oppressive elements. But you don't have the disadvantages which are high cost and dependence on one craft. I don't even have one ready made shelter but two, I can't imagine limiting my options like that. While fresh water boating, if your craft is damaged, you can go ashore easily. You can live there, or replace your craft with a homemade one. You can improvise with a raft to replace your houseboat. Yes, you can build your own salt water boat, but you have to worry about storms killing you easier. You don't have to worry about running out of fresh drinking water. If your primary food source decreases you can go to land and kill something. There are always wild plants to harvest close by. You can plant semi-wild gardens in secluded areas not easily accessible by land. Living on the water allows you the advantage of being mobile, even in populated areas. Without the disadvantages of road travel. No, it won't be 100% safe, others will have the same idea. But you are eliminating a lot of the competition. On a farm, the land can be fought over. On the water, in theory you can move to a less contested area.
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Several areas suitable come to mind. The Delta region in California, stretching from the Bay Area to Sacramento. The Mississippi. The Louisiana or Florida swamps. The St. John's river in Florida. I know there are quite a few others. The thing to keep in mind is that you need a large area in which to escape if there is trouble. One short river won't do the trick. A small lake, such as Lake Tahoe, is too constricted. You are setting yourself up for failure. The competition for the limited resources will get you killed. The cheapest route would be to have a Unibomber shack hidden somewhere deep in the back country, and a small boat to get around in, to hunt for food and to recon the dangers. The more expensive plan would be to live on the boat. Either way, have plenty of caches around the area. You could start to live this lifestyle now, and come the Apocalypse you would hardly notice any changes ( other than a lot more people shooting at you ). On large waterways, I would imagine you could live a lot less of a regulated lifestyle, at least as opposed to a nomadic car living experience.
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I know there would be a bit of a learning curve. Even sailing on a stagnant pool of water is not the same as being on solid land. But it can't be that difficult. Even if you really screwed up, it is a short swim to the shore ( of course, down South you might be swimming through water moccasins and alligators ). You can cheaply stay on the move, nature grows all your food, if there is a shortage you float away to a better area. You are a little safer than on land, although not nearly as safe as on the ocean. You will still need dog to alert you to a swimming ninja attack, but you can feed it fish guts instead of expensive dog food. Coastal flooding doesn't effect you. You can live in a temperate climate without the expense of real estate. Just beware of the need to cache food supplies. You can never be 100% sure of dry supplies unless you cache. On land, you need a motor. On water, you can get by without one in an emergency. You can build your own craft with little more than plastic 55 gallon drums you pick up cheap at a cola bottling plant. You can fish for a living. There is no property taxes.
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There are dangers, of course. You are surrounded by a moat, which also means you can't escape as easily. If your home is damaged, and our current economy is broken, you are stuck with constructing a primitive craft such as a lumpy raft. Your living space is even more cramped than a travel trailer. You might get really sick of eating fish and wild weeds. If you are poling along, a boat with a big motor can run you down and throw you in that parties stew pot. A few bullets can sink you. But I think, all in all, not a bad alternative to land based retreats. If boats are your bag, baby.
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15 comments:

Bill said...

Sssshhh on the unabomber shack and the small boat! That's my strategy. LOL The worst part of it is the damn snakes and bugs. An added advantage [or disadvantage], in the event of a partial collapse, is that inland rivers could become major trade routes. A person could make their boat and location actually pay. Historically, aside from the major trading towns, river areas have always stayed pretty wild. Lots of under the table money and work. Just a thought.

Maitreya said...

Just prior to "Y2K" I moved to a sailboat. This was not coincidence.
As we all know, nothing happened then, but it was a really secure feeling during 911 to be on a self contained, wind powered vessel that could support me with no outside inputs for at least 3 weeks.
Loaded up on food, gas and water I was ready to sail away from all this craziness.

On the water you can see or hear what is coming at you a good ways off, and have time to prepare or run away.
It isn't easy for swimming ninjas to get to a boat at anchor, and nearly impossible to sneak up on a boat at anchor.

One of the "mangrove people" did swim to the boat once, but he just wanted a ride in to the dinghy dock, and I obliged. I still heard him coming at about 25 feet out.

Fun stuff, although, whenever you leave your boat, you wonder if it will still be there when you get back....
A fabulous lesson in impermanence.

vlad said...

In some remote areas you may be able
to travel on abandoned RR tracks.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/railrider-travel-in-style.php

Buzz Kimball said...

I've read there's thousands of river miles to explore , yet, there's only about 10,000 people living on boats in the US.

What else I heard is that chicks will bail after 3 months of co-living in a closet without a flusher.

so for any of you serial romeo's consider renting an yatch and if your hoping for a good turnover, it's worth looking into...

Joseph said...

"You might get really sick of eating fish and wild weeds"
Who says you can't have a garden on your boat? Having not lived on a boat I am not sure of issues as long as you protect your plants from splashing salt water but you could support their water usage with a Jungle Boss solar sill.
http://www.seapanel.com/p_prod_jungleboss.html

TexasJim said...

oh,good lordy leave the jim hawkins trip to the yachtworld preppies,you farmer guys is broke.stick with the covered wagon mule driver fantasy or the honeycomb hideout plan.famers and boats don't mix you'll end up shark food.bad advice jimbo.

Maitreya said...

This chick made it tweo years in a closet (tho mine had a flusher) with no refrigeration or pressurized water.
I guess I'm not your ordinary farmer either.

Publius said...

James,
Come on - don't I get any credit for this essay? I put in the comment after your "colonies" article suggesting living in a boat, houseboat, or some such craft.

Regardless, I just want the idea to get out there to the prepper network, so there will be more of us. Maybe we can start a club, or trading network?

Good points in your latest post, but I agree with Matireya: it is not easy to sneak up on a boat, and some basic security precautions, such as a dog, some tin cans on wires strung along the gunwales or sides of the boat, would make it pretty easy to get a warning of intruders.

Solar and wind are very good on boats, just as they are for your trailer.

You can make fairly sophisticated designs using traditional materials and methods: old think boards and a bit of skill can make you a nice scow-type of boat that could even be sailed. You can sew your own sails.

It would be good to have a small outboard engine to have for emergency power for escaping from bad guys or to go upstream. Fuel will be dear, so motors will probably be used mainly for emergencies. You could even rig an old lawnmower engine, or better yet a diesel motor from an old VW - just use a straight shaft and prop.

If you look on Craigslist, you'll notice that boats of all kinds are being sold for real cheap right now. Peope are desperate for money, and boats are a luxury. Boats are even being abandoned: just keep your eyes open if you go to a river or lake.

I think the scow type of boat is best for inland waterways. Because the design is rectangular, you get the most living space for the length. You can easily beach it or pull it up on shore without worrying about it tipping or slanting. A good design tapers from the middle to the bow and stern - this makes it faster and more seaworthy. There are plenty of books on boat-building. Go to the library and find an old one that goes into traditional methods. Just photocopy it.

What else? You could install steel armor plates around your living space for safety.

Gardens on shore are the way to go for food production, along with fishing. Trade fish for other food - landlubbers will be hankering for protein, to eat and for fertilizer.

Get a shortwave radio and run it off solar for communication, along with VHF ship-shore radio. We boat-dwellers should form a network of some kind to share tips, ideas, threats, etc.
I'm not a boat dweller yet, but it is one of the ideas I really like.

admin said...

Boats can be sunk pretty easy...

My strategy is still to live frugal enough to have several dozen grand in cash along with all the gold I can carry on my back to Get the HELL outta the country if things get that bad.

I'll think about you guys clutching your guns while floating down the river on your boats and trying to crap over the edge while staring wild-eyed at the hungry natives (your one time neighbors) on the shore.

Publius said...

Admin:
Sounds good, but if the shit hits the fan, almost every country will be badly affected.
Your cash, if in US dollars, will be mostly worthless.
It will be difficult to get a lot of gold and cash out of the country... except maybe by boat!

Also, in a collapse, foreigners will be looked at suspiciously by many - depending on the country you choose to escape to, it might be better to form a survival group with people who you know, and have vetted... What nation is decoupled enough right now to survive a collapse unscathed? I can't think of any, and those that are remote and have low population density will be easy prey to their resource hungry neighbors: e.g., Scandinavia, Mongolia etc. Very nice countries: but Russia and China are big and hungry.

So if you plan to escape to another country, choose wisely...

admin said...

Pubicus,

You're right about the dollar. Cash in another currency such as Euros is quickly changeable at any major airport...the Euro is more stable anyway. But the deal is it's a long emergency.

I think it's smarter to prepare for more likely scenarios than only prepare for Hollywood fantasies.

Go by history. We have nearly always been able to see it coming even when it comes rather fast.

There has always been some sort of rationale or event before profound change. You have to read the signs. There is always a window for escape unless the bomb lands right on your head.

I'm talking if there is war or martial law along with some sort of genocide here...economic collapse is survivable. But it would be a sign for me, probably a rationale the gov't will use for martial law.

You can't buy a plane ticket with gold, neither can you carry your guns or hundreds of pounds of food stores. Such is also easily confiscated, moreso if you live in an isolated area.

Don't you realize that this society caters to those with money? Those Swiss bank accounts are unlikely to fold immediately. A couple million stashed in one isn't a bad idea.

Lots of big business folk who don't quite qualify to be flown to the company retreat on the private jet will be getting out. Hollywood folk and others, the top five percent. The top 0.5 per cent who run everything will be gone, but that top five percent will hold the window open. Believe it.

Most people will be frozen and won't move fast enough in that window of opportunity. They won't have the cash.

If you have 50 grand you can get residency in Brazil and that's enough to buy house and a land there and in many other places.

The problem is the average American is afraid and has no idea how to conduct themselves as a minority in another culture.

The majority has it good in this country and are terrified how they'd be treated as an outsider (basically how they treat others).

They also don't save their money worth a damn.

It goes without saying you should choose where you go well and in accordance with your background.

I'll think of you from the beach in Brazil. I'll blend in quite well there, thank you very much.

Have the cash if you want to save your ass.

"Ciao"

Publius said...

admin:
Good points.
I still have relatives in Scandinavia - and the French seem to like me, and I've learned their language...
I'll have to ponder your ideas.
I agree that most Americans will be like deer in the headlights when the crash (even if it is in slow motion) comes. It won't be pretty, will it?

fallout11 said...

This could easily be a viable strategy for someone living on the Great Lakes. Such is also Dmitry Orlov's current strategy, he's living on a sailboat on the East Coast.

Maitreya said...

"Anywhere you want to go, you go.
That's what a boat is, you know.
It's not a hull and a keel and a mast and sails; that's what a boat NEEDS.
But what a boat IS, is freedom."

Bring me that horizon...

-Jack Sparrow

Flip said...

There are several people doing it, some for quite a long time. Freedom on a raft has some links and other ideas in some of the other posts.