WHEN COLLAPSE?
A reader, perhaps smelling blood in the water and moving in for the kill, wanted to know why I'm soliciting funds if I'm convinced that the end is nigh and we are all going to die. Why worry about money, right? A pretty darn good question. It is legitimate. Most prep suppliers are selling short term peace of mind to you. Buy our incredibly overpriced slop and you can sail smooth through the next levee break or winter storm. Even the multi-generational collapse people tell you that there is plenty of time to prepare because we are in a long slow collapse. You envision a lifetime business for them, not a quick buck artist profiting before the collapse. Perhaps it makes good business sense to not panic anyone, even the preppers. I really believe that we are going to fall off a cliff. I could be wrong, but I'm working to position myself as if I'm right. The thing is, I have no idea when it all falls apart. How long it is until we go over the cliff. I'm prepared for tomorrow to be it, but of course the more time that elapses the better I'll position myself. Two years food is good and will do for now, but five is even better. After that, if there is time, I'll shoot for ten years.
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A related question was at what price does oil signal that it is too expensive and starts our collapse. I think the right answer is that it isn't about price as much as it is about availability. Yes, our economy has been made to run completely on cheap and abundant oil. But does it really have to be "giveaway cheap"? There have always been swings in price, and adjusted for inflation I'm sure that $70 a barrel isn't a collapse point price. I think the deciding factor has always been its abundance. Supplies could build back up and lower the price, or conservation could help things out. As long as we knew it was always available. We acted like it was never going to run out, and we built life time investments ( business, retirements, investments ) on that assumption. I'm not saying that $500 a barrel oil is feasible, just that its future supply is very important. We're still paying prices on a lot of goods as if oil was still over $100 a barrel ( metal, fertilizers, etc. ) and we are still surviving. It may not be sustainable but it has only caused a slowdown in excess rather than true shortages. It just seems that since the true global supply has started going down, all our economic problems started and won't correct. That is why I wonder more about supply than price.
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Now, getting back to panic by example, why am I living in our consumer society if we are all going to end up in the stew pot? If I thought that we would collapse by the end of the year, I would be finding the most remote top of a mountain I could, haul up all the supplies I could beg, borrow and steal, and completely drop out. I would send a really nasty note to wife #2, tell her what a foul little horrid troll she was ( I have a bit built up ), tell the kids and my parents I loved them, give the finger to work ( nothing personal, I'm just a bit peeved I still have to work so many hours ) and slowly go insane in anticipation of the coming zombie hoards that would try to storm my fortress. But I have no idea when any of this will happen. If I really knew, you would be paying $200 a year for this newsletter and I would be selling you stock market advice. Look, I know I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box. I read a heck of a lot and try to connect the dots. My only talent ( at least as far as I'm concerned ) is stripping away the wishful thinking. I love to RoundUp those green shoots. It isn't so hard to anticipate the direction we are headed. The hard part is making yourself believe. I have no talent for timing those events.
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That is why, as much as I'd love to live a lot more prepared, I have to compromise. A hundred miles from any town, with a twenty year supply of grains. That would be ideal. The reality, the compromise, is the need to keep sending my court appointed welfare case most of a paycheck. Does anyone end up okay in jail when the apocalypse happens? Of course not. I'm staying out of jail, even if it makes me much more vulnerable. It could be years until we crash. No, not decades, but certainly years are feasible. Not guaranteed. But very probable. No survival plan is perfect because of the need to compromise with the incessant demands of the hoards of parasites that surround us. Family is usually the worst. But of course you give in because it not only is the right thing to do, you hope they would do the same if needed. The government is always there, grubby nasty paws held out. If you stay legal and have a piece of property, there will always be the sharply rising taxes on it ( junk land will be the same, but sharp increases in the single digits are much more affordable in an emergency that triple/quadruple digits ). And you always need some kind of income and trips to the store. No way around it. The lucky ones merely minimize it.
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Now, please don't use any of this as an excuse to be a total slacker and not do enough preparing for the inevitable. My point is just that you can't be perfect. Compromises must be made. But never stop trying to shoot for perfect. And do it soon, because no one can time it so just assume the worst.
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Friday, August 07, 2009
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Bison, Good post. Better than the rants you have been doing lately. To answer your second paragraph. I told you before that my son is an engineer in the gulf of mexico oil fields. He is home now for two weeks. He then goes to Nigeria to work in their oil fields. He says they have spent the last few months capping all the oil producing rigs in the gulf.The oil companies are pissd at the government about the coming cap in trade laws that will tax the hell out of them.We are using the reserves up now. in a month or two the reserves will be gone. No oil from the gulf. All oil will have to come from canada and opec. Look for oil to hit $300.00 a barrel. This winter expect $5:00 a gallon gas and the same for heating oil and diesel. This is not a guess or looking in a tea cup. This is going on now and is pure fact. Most of the boats in the gulf oil field have been sold to mexico and nigeria. Most of the oil field workers have been fired or layed off. If you dought these facts check online and verify them yourself. What I can't figure out is why aren't more people screaming about this. There is absolutely nothing on the news about this. Get ready preppers,we are about to get hit big time. Will it lead to the collapse? I don't know. I do know there will be a lot more job losses and a bunch of folks freezing to death this winter. G.C.
Good post, Jim.
One practical suggestion for the bison herd out there. Heads up! The telephone book companies are distributing their books now and we are to recycle our old books. What I am doing is trying to get every old and new telephone book I can for toilet paper. They are a lot more compact than regular toilet paper and a lot cheaper, being free and all. To make them useable, you fold and wad the pages up to make them as krinkly and soft as possible without disintegrating the pages, then you use them. Don't put them in a regular flush toilet. Discard them separately in a plastic bag or plastic bag lined bucket (with loose lid). Then discard and/or let them dry and burn them. If you use a bucket for your fecal needs, then just put the used pages in with the fecal matter in the bucket and cover with dirt with each use.
Just a side note, it's best to urinate in a separate bucket and use the urine on you garden plants or just in a pour it in a little low spot in your yard... very little if any danger of infection from urine. Fecal matter is a lot less smelly and easier to deal with and compost if it's not mixed with urine. Fecal matter without urine, in some climates, can be dried relatively fast and burned or, of course, composted and used for fertilizer. If you mix the urine and fecal matter together, read about the "sawdust" toilet concept to get a successful composting result. If you use the separate buckets for urine and fecal matter, with the fecal bucket, after each use, just throw a little dry dirt to cover. Do this until bucket is full and then transfer it to a dry pile or pit or confined area (fencing, wood slats, pallets, whatever) mixed with other composting material.
To some of you, these ideas might sound bizzare or crazy. Certainly, the survivalist are nuts. Things couldn't possibly get that bad so soon. Think again.
Jim, who is this guy going by the initials G.C. This is some pretty heavy stuff and needs to be addressed.
Michael
mboone@rtccom.net
Michael:
I just had the same thought: very very significant.
Cash for clunkers, defrauding the taxpayers and tricking people to go into debt to own a new piece of shit from Detroit gets all the press:
what about the fact that according to G.C., all the suckers aren't going to be able to afford to drive the new cars?
Jim,
Good posts all around, great reading.
One thing I must disagree with is this idea of a "long, slow" collapse.
A "collapse" as I think you are referring to it, implies a major disruption in goods/services, creating grave economic, political, and social turmoil and the cessation of essential services, etc.
A "collapse" by this definition is triggered by a crisis of some form, be it hyperinflation, terrorist attack, whatever.
Crisis: 1. an unstable situation of extreme danger or difficulty
2. a crucial stage or turning point in the course of something
A crisis occurs as a result of a dislocation followed by a violent reallocation. There are examples in the naturaly world of crises occuring on a grand scale. For example, a large buildup in heat or kinetic energy in a given space underground, will result in a violent reallocation of heat (kinetic energy) in order to restore balance. This is the cause of a volcano. You can say the same for hot air/cold air, and the resultant hurricanes, tornados, etc.
When natural phenomena reallocate gradually, then it normally does not produce these types of violent events. The pressure/heat simply dissipates naturally, unnoticed by the casual observer.
So to imply a "long, slow" collapse, implies a violent reallocation of some form over time. But can this be categorized as a crisis event, leading to said collapse, or more likely, would reallocations occcur along the way to correct the misallocations, thus negating the violent nature of the crisis?
In other words, if the national debt slowly unwinds, if oil slowly runs out, etc., then natually people will finds ways and means by which to adapt, and reallocate the imbalances and restore order.
A crisis either happens violently, leading to a collapse. Or it happens gradually, in which case it can be classified as "change" or "evolution" for which mankind has acquired the necessary means to adapt and move on.
By no means do I disagree that a collapse cannot happen. In fact, I am solidly in the camp that believes it will, as evidenced by my own extensive preparations. I believe, however, that it will be fast and violent. It is entirely possible to wake up on any given day over the course of thenext few weeks/years and see the following headlines:
"Putin dumps dollar, reveals hidden gold purchases by Russian Central Banks."
"Ministers of finance in Dubai, Kuwait, Oman, and Yemen convened an emergency meeting in response to Kuwait's redemption of its entire holding of US treasuries."
"A nuclear bomb was detonated in Los Angeles. The President has declared a nationwide state of emergency."
"Peter Schiff, potential candidate for the US Senate seat in Connecticut currently held by Christopher Dodd, was killed by an unnamed assailant while exiting a taxicab in New York City."
I could go on... you see, we are at the point where ANYTHING could happen to trigger a dollar collapse, revolution, etc. But it will be quick and violent.
And there will be ZERO warning.
aw
Bison,
I too am wondering who G.C. is, especially since we live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. G. C., if you're reading this, contact me at The View From Treesong's. I'm listed on a few other people's blog lists. We're in Houghton County. And could you provide additional documentation? Thanks, Treesong
To "Staying Alive" and "Treesong", This is G.C. I really don't want to give out my address or phone number so I'm not sure what to say about that. I'm a 67 year old retired L.E.O. from The murder capitol of the united states (downstate michigan) I now live in the U.P. south of the Soo. My son is a former marine corp. sniper instructor. He is now an engineer working the oil fields for the last 10 years. He is not given to exageration or lying. I truely believe what he has been telling me about what is going on with the oil companies.
I have contacted Rush Limbaugh,Glen Beck,James Rawles and most of the news anchors from Fox News and my congressmen. Nobody responds and seem not to believe me. I just sent an e-mail to Mark Shenk of Bloomberb.net Mabee he will check my story out.
I really think this news is extreemly imporntant and the media should be screaming about it. Everyones silent.
I hope you two are on the level. I'm sure Treesong is but if the men in black come knocking on my door I'll be a little suspecious of Michael Boone. Yes I'm paranoid. G.C.
I'm going to check out G.C.'s report. It's contradictory news in that Bushy # 2 signed 20 year Iraqi oil leases with big oil that provides for the military to stay until at least 2026. But the elites plans may have changed since the market crash and the housing bust.
Ha! and I stacked another cord of wood today...
Why continue to take money? That's simple, same reason I will. "It Ain't Over Till It's Over"
I agree that it will be a sudden a violent collapse. I believe there will be signs and indicators for those who know what to look for.
I predict that when you can't buy a happymeal at McDonalds, the riots will start soon after. -of note- the McD's board voted to take the double cheeseburger off the dollar menu!
Just wanted to introduce myself, new to blogging. http://prepyourfamily.blogspot.com/
I'm a former USAF intelligence specialist- I and feel the time is quickly approaching for the downfall of our government.
My blog is just getting off the ground, but I've been prepping for years. I'm just hoping to share some ideas and learn some as well.
KNOCK, KNOCK! Hello??
Jim, you are "living in our consumer society"????.... one toe in the tepid pool--- maybe.
Looks like GC has seen a finger on one of the triggers. Collapse when? Joe Average having to cough up 5$ a gall in a sudden and prolonged hike is my guess at a tailspin producing working middle class 2 job family drop out point. My area has already squeezed the high school grad rough trades such as roofing and drywall; masonry and such to the wall; Mom tain't holding on by much in retail/service. Factory jobs have left; the service economy isn't an economy.
Y'all know the litany.
To a casual observer in my area, right now, Dem folks is running tight and crashing is frequent. I believe we get squeezed that hard they'll "GO GAULT" w/o the slightest clue of what that means.
c57
According to Baker Hughes, the U.S. offshore rig count decreased by 10 from 47 to 37 in July, but the land rig count increased by 46 from 848 to 894. I don't know why those 10 offshore rigs were shut down, but there could be valid economic reasons. Even if all U.S. offshore rigs were to shut down, we might not suffer a severe oil shortage; imported oil could substitute. Of course, if I could predict future oil prices with any accuracy, I wouldn't bother to post this; I'd be far too busy rolling around with hot young European babes on my yacht in the Med.
By collapse, I usually mean a collapse of the federal government. I'm certain that we'll see major outbreaks of urban violence when our currency becomes so worthless that Uncle Sugar can no longer support his welfare clients. That doesn't imply that Uncle Sugar will just dry up and blow away. The feds will become even less distinguishable from any other gang of bandits come to rob us, but they'll probably be around to rob us for centuries.
Dakin, you're going to love this article. San Bernadino is no country for Old Men (or Old Dykes for that matter).
Here's the Link:
http://exiledonline.com/desert-dispatch-meth-morons-and-murder-in-victorville/#more-9840
Hey! I live in Hesperia! You better watch it! I actually like it here! (though, my idea of a good time is desert survival, moto & sand, and SHOOTING OUT IN BFE LUCERNE VALLEY)
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