WHITE BOY ABROAD
Before I start dazzling you with my brilliance and charm, the standard disclaimer to futilely ward off the legions of idiotic and politically correct brainwashed zombies into answering with remarks about what a cracker racist honky mo-fo I am. If I was a white supremist, my marriages to two Mexicans would have been cause for getting kicked out of the kluckers. I don't view skin color as anything other than a environmental mutation ( even if that theory has certain flaws to it, it is close enough for government work ) and race is nothing more than a tribal marker. Even though that is about as plain as you can get, I'm sure some moron is going to pipe up with something stupid. So let me just warn you now. That will end badly for you, your membership in the loyal minions possibly being canceled. At the very least, the board of directors will review your file and decide if your blog subscription cost should be raised.
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Before, when questions of escaping abroad were raised, I wrote that it was a very bad idea. I still feel that way. But because some new guy joins up and won't read the last seven hundred thousand words of my wisdom and memorize it, I have to cover the subject again ( okay, you got me. I would have repeated the subject again anyway when I ran out of other topics ). First off, going abroad is financially risky. If you are retired, you will see your Social Security dry up and then you are stranded in a foreign area with no way to earn money. You were tolerated, not because the farmers liked pasty white old guys in sandals and black socks hanging around drooling over five cent tacos but because you infused the local economy with mucho dinaro ( pardon the spelling, my Spanish is largely confined to cussing and food ). Without that large check from Uncle Sugar, you will quickly find yourself stealing eggs from the neighbors chickens and scampering off into the jungle to eat it raw ( assuming you can get away while on a walker ). I wouldn't even be surprised to see overseas retirees being the first one to have their benefits canceled. When the government goes broke, no one is safe. At the very least, your dollars buy less and less until you find Zimbabwean dollars buy more than American dollars. And if you have a job overseas, how long will that remain a safe bet?
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I don't know exactly how a collapse will unfold. Overseas jobs could be safer than domestic ones. But I also think it would be silly not to plan for the worse case scenario. If your American dollars are interrupted, would you be able to survive overseas? Perhaps you have a pretty good gig going. Perhaps you work as security at Saudi oil refineries. In that case, this article doesn't apply to you. I'm talking about otherwise useless people. If the current system crashes, and you become worthless, can you survive where you are? Obviously, old people on government checks become useless. Don't get your wrinkles out of shape. I know with my skills, I'm pretty worthless in a crashing money economy. I'm not much more than a minimum wage clerk/flunky. Do you have the skills to survive without American sent money? A businessman working overseas has very little value outside the money economy. And we all know the retirement system is in big trouble. Even a writer, say, living overseas will be in big trouble. In a functioning economy, yes, he has value. But in a crashing economy? I hope you get the picture. Outside of economics, there is the culture/language issue. You will be a stranger in a strange land.
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And of course, let's not forget our favorite subject of guns. In a lot of ways, owning guns is sort of a chicken/egg problem. What comes first, owning a gun for protection or owning a gun for protection because everyone else owns a gun. Yes, in polite society being armed makes everyone play nice. In a collapse, it is just more idiots being armed. I'm not saying you shouldn't be armed, or that going to a country that prohibits civilian ownership is a good idea. I'm mearly saying that here in this country, so many guns does mean self defense does become a bigger issue. Not because you won't be a target, but because so many more people will try to make you a target. Anyway, if you go overseas, more often than not you can't stay overly paranoid and heavily armed. Too many restruictions. At the very least, it will be like living in California. Every aspect of gun ownership will be taxed, regulated or prohibited. In the event of trouble, your guns will be taken quickly.
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So, many strikes against moving. No matter how bad things get here, you can still be armed, there are plenty of places to escape to, and you know the lay of the land. And you don't stick out amongst the natives. A few lucky ones can escape to former English colonies. Most of the rest of us will be white boys living with well tanned natives. You will stick out like the proverbial sore thumb. And, you will be hated. Way back in the day when I was in the military, I went to Hawaii. Yes, I know, be jealous. Another reason to envy me. My first duty station was Hawaii. And not the crap hole Scoffield where I would have to do real work in an infantry battalion ( that, unfortunately, came later in Korea ) but right next door at an Inscom unit. Field Station Kunia, if any of you are familiar with it. My first duty station was in paradise while the rest of my training unit got shipped off to nuke sites in Germany. Suckers. I quickly found out that all was not well in paradise however. Being a white boy, the natives didn't care for me much. And didn't try to hide their feelings. My squad leader was Japanese and had no problems assimilating into the local culture, so it wasn't a backlash at the military in general. I can't remember if I've shared that with you before. My apologies if I have. I do forget what I've blathered about before.
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Race marks your tribe. In a resource scarce time, tribes clash in a fight for resources. Simple. Not only will you be the odd white man out, you will also be from a country that somehow seems to be on everyone's crap list. Imagine that. Invading countries just like the Soviets did and we don't stay popular. All in all, I think staying put on your junk land in a beater trailer surrounded by dollar store crap is much better than running off to a foreign country where no one likes you and you can't earn a living, speak the language or hide very well.
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Tuesday, September 22, 2009
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I think you hit the nail on the head. I know a lot of people in and from Central America, would like to retire there. But when things get bad, you are just an out-sider taking up space and resources. I remember how it was between the blacks and the whites. When things got hot, to find your black friends all you had to do was look on the other side. And it was the same for them.
Hey,
I agree going Foreign has big problems but not for all. I have family and a connection through my wife to a place I can live well and by starting a business for income and working with family I could live as my family live without USD income. Living off the land, no or little electricity don't appeal to Americans but I find it relaxing when I am there. Life becomes more about people and less about things. I think this will be true in the collapse here.
Please don't cancel my loyal minion membership I seldom disagree and then only a little bit.
Hey,
I agree going Foreign has big problems but not for all. I have family and a connection through my wife to a place I can live well and by starting a business for income and working with family I could live as my family live without USD income. Living off the land, no or little electricity don't appeal to Americans but I find it relaxing when I am there. Life becomes more about people and less about things. I think this will be true in the collapse here.
Please don't cancel my loyal minion membership I seldom disagree and then only a little bit.
I can't wait to hear what the white boys say about this one. Heh.
Losing all that U.S. white boy privilege would do most good, characterwise.
As long as you don't jump off a building straight away or God forbid find a gun and go crazy shooting up everything or yourself, y'all will be just fine.
Skilled people can work. Example: I have a RN and a job would just about fall on my head nearly anywhere. You can also start your own business, teach English or something.
America is special as far as race. Often there is some other minority (or religion or class or whatever) who's the Big Bad or the Nigras. Your fellow American blacks will be considered as American as you in most places and would do well to have your back. And vice versa.
There are expatriate communities and they operate by nationality, not race.
Overseas, Americans are Americans and you don't have that big of a advantage.
Oh, but that's your problem! Sorry.
[grin]
Yep, I looked at getting out of Babylon and came to the same conclusion as you, Jim. I have been to Central and South America and conclude that I would not want to be the Gringo there come TEOTWAWKI. There are 20,000 islands in the South Pacific though. Maybe a fundraising drive for an investigative report by you would be in order :^)
Speedgene, your membership is safe- you've bypassed the big problem of going overseas by not being dependant on the US $. I hope you didn't lose any sleep over your minion credentials. :)
OH CRAP! What if Al Gore is right! I wouldn't want to be on a Pacific island if the poles melt and me and a polar bear are fighting for the last tip of land sticking up out of the plankten dead water. I think someone is trying to exile me from the Bison Compound to die on a submerging island. You Bastards!
what happened to the bison boat idea?
Bison Boat
If you have a portable profession, like Admin, then you could be set just about anywhere you travel.
If you have some foreign investments and live in a country where you money is strong, wouldn't be a bad idea either. If your money makes more money then it doesn't matter where you live as long as it is enough money to live off of.
Staying in place only protects you in certain scenarios.
When things get really bad, there is inevitably martial law and/or war...how is staying on some land you bought with a deed registered and filed with your name in it (so the Powers that Be know EXACTLY where you are) a good idea?
The most common shit flying scenario in the world is where the the gov't goes haywire and turns on its people or is overthrown and ditto with heavily armed and trained troops and militias. In fact, GW set up executive orders just for those contingencies and his O-ness hasn't done a thing to reverse them.
So how are you ignoring the gov't factor as far as survival? The SHTF scenarios that happen in real life are usually some sort of gov't or war BS. The zombies aren't gangstas or hungry hordes. They are trained troops with bombs and air back up.
What if they are rounding you up for the draft or to get your guns or take your land or transport you to some camp as an undesirable? What if troops are coming through your rural area with house to house searches and confiscation?
Reagan started training military on US soil to do exactly that in Central and South America. ANYBODY with firearms down there got a bullet in the head, whether guns were legal or not and they did house to house searches in remote and rural areas. Why do you think they'd do it differently here?
So what gonna happen when troops with the capacity to drop bombs, toss grenades or shoot you off the face of the earth you if piss them off?
What if Yellowstone blows up? Disasters of all sorts sometimes happen in a rural area. You could take some stuff, but you'd have to leave most behind.
The average American survivalist seems only ready for a few Hollywood type disasters. Bang, bang, and all the bad guys are dead and everything's fixed.
If you ever need to seriously bail and all you've done is bought and stored a lot of survival crap and guns instead of holding on to cash on hand, you're screwed.
what are some of your ideas about getting out of the country, admin?
let me correct my previous question.
@admin
how do you plan to go about getting out of the country?
Here's a REAL bugout bag below.
The key is not to wait until the last minute. Be aware of current events. There are always signs and there HAS ALWAYS been a window where you can simply take a plane, boat, train out. In such scenarios as WW2, Lebanon, Gaza, even Iraq, if they acted fast enough and had the cash, they could get out. Only if you wait too long, it will no longer be an option.
Your bugout stuff will all fit on your person, able to be well hidden. It goes without saying you should look as if you aren't carrying anything, poor, humble and blend in.
1) At least $10,000 cash, preferably $100,000--yes, that is for each member of your family. As long as you have the minimum 10 grand in cash, you can put the rest in gold or alternate currency. Silver is too bulky.
2) Passport
3) Yellow fever immunization certificate
4) Birth certificate
5) Driver's license for all adults
6)USB flash drive with all the above documents and anything else important, including an inventory of your possessions, deeds and contracts, insurance papers, important contact info and absolutely everything else.
7) Credit cards, debit cards, ATM cards
8) Cell phone unless the disaster is an act of war or martial law is in place. A cell phone is a tracking device. You would not want to use your cards either in the latter scenarios until you're safely out of the country.
That's it--all you really need to make a start at a new life elsewhere.
My ideas are at my blog.
I clicked on your name and your profile is private, so no link to your blog
P.S. You need 50 grand for Brazilian residency. Ease of moving to another country is basically based on the cash you have on hand.
Brazil is a good place, rich in natural resources, big and varied. White folk could go south and blend. Darker folk should settle more north but white folk would blend there too.
There are big American expat communities in many communities to help you get settled and Portuguese isn't hard to pick up, especially if you already know Spanish.
If I were a white boy, I'd probably go to New Zealand, though. Don't know how much cash you'd need, but cash and/or a skill WILL get you in and settled comfy.
Buy some beans, but you'd be better off getting cash and a skill too.
Well since I don't have 50k just sitting around, I'll just have to eat my way out of the [possible] shit pile. Hope there's roughage at least. LOL
Cash is what it takes. Notice the immigrants who came here when their shit hits the fan...they band together, live frugally, work hard, and SAVE. That includes the Africans who as a group do MUCH better financially than American blacks.
Pol Pot killed over a million of his fellow Cambodians in the 60's. He was rounding up folks and killing them for such things as wearing glasses.
Some Cambodians escaped. They acted fast and put their hands on the CASH to do so.
Countries don't take the poor, huddled masses anymore. Gotta have cash.
As an aside, New Zealand turned down a residency permit for a British nurse 'cause she was FAT.
So fat folks can cross off New Zealand. They don't want you. They do have a big list of all the skills they want...as long as you aren't fat.
Save your money. Live frugal. Work hard for as much money as you can get. A man without cash...well, he might as well be fat.
I adore ya Jim, but you need some cash, y'know?
Damn, speaking of cash, I need to get to work.
P.S. I think it's rude to advertise my blog here. I'm just adding my comments to Jim's.
James m Dakin said...
OH CRAP! What if Al Gore is right! I wouldn't want to be on a Pacific island
if the poles melt and ...
If the poles melt overnight, the rise in mean sea level would eliminate many of our problems and the ocean front property
line would move inland.
Buy those lots on West Bullion Road now.
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