SENSE OF COMMUNITY
Before we get going today ( Happy Monday!! ), let me direct you to a new blog http://www.mukwahspeaks.com/ . It’s a bit early to tell the direction of this blog, although his introduction pretty much speaks for itself. As far as how often and what the bulk of the subjects will be, I don’t know. But it seems very well written. If he starts to sound better than Bison, please erase any mention of it. Now, I wanted to write on the direction of political units in the near future. The collapse of the welfare state is of course a given, but I would like to talk about the size of the future political units. Some feel my small tribe scenario is incorrect and we might still see county or state sizes. I’ll be addressing that. But I didn’t have any down time today to think on the article much, so I’ll save it for another day. Right now you get an easy one, why survivalists have no sense of community and why we are paranoid loner nut jobs cowering in fear in our garage turned bunker, stroking the plastic stock of our semi auto poodle shooters, muttering for the bad men to please go away.
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Normally I would go off in three different directions until I got to the end of the page and then finally get to the point, but I’m feeling bad for you today and I’ll just get right to it. We have no sense of community, no desire to form groups of like minded individuals locally, because we know those bastards are out to get us. You get all your buddies together, everyone oohs and aahs about how quickly the country is going to hell in a handbasket on a rocketship, and everyone solemnly pinky promises on their mothers graves to immediately stock up on the agreed upon supplies and then not a Gott darn one of them does anything except makes the payment on their wives boob jobs so she can go on boffing the pool boy and won’t leave the husband so he has to pay fifty percent of his after tax income supporting her and the rug rats that look suspiciously like the milk man if not in fact said pool boy. Oh, they might mean well and solemnly proclaim to the Gods that they will absolutely positively follow through on things. But despite the macho proclamations of the average American male, they are buttcrack deep in the control of the wife. If she popped out any spawn, she has absolute control for eighteen years. And 99.999% of wives will have nothing to do with preparing for the future. I could count the number of female Bison readers on one hand, I’m sure.
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So, unless you are a complete and utter moron, you realize these things. You know that regardless of the threats coming down the road, the fear of losing 75% of the paycheck will keep the majority of males passive. They would rather sign over their testicles and paychecks and at least get invited into the circle of comfort they bought. They will be perched on the edge, just getting the table scrapes as it were. But at least they won’t be living in a camper cab-over trailer sitting precariously atop cinder blocks, riding a garage sale used K-Mart mountain bike to work, having to pick up crack whores at 2 a.m. because no other female would have anything to do with their dead broke ass. He might earn $50 k a year and have to beg for his lunch allowance, and he might only get laid once a month, but at least he can still enjoy the central air in the house. The quite simple logic is that by reaching out to others, you invite them into your stockpile come crash time.
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“Oh, bro, I love you , man. I had been meaning to buy my share of supplies, but the bitch wouldn’t let me. I hope you can spare another ten thousand calories a day for us. I’ll do my duty on the guard post, and the wife can…ahh…I’m sure she can do something.” Now, try saying no. The wife will insist that the husband try to take your supplies by force. The same wife that wouldn’t consent to a few percent of income for the basic supplies. I think we all know that anyone you try to band with will become a parasite. A few of us are lucky and know like minded and prepared friends or family. But the bulk are surrounded by entitlement mentality, armed, hostile idiots. Of course we aren’t going to “reach out”. What a bunch of New Age crap. We can’t all just get along.
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Monday, November 16, 2009
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Jim:
Living the nightman, my friend. Living the nightmare.
I'm 99.999% sure that you CAN'T count the number of female Bison readers on one hand!
Amen!
You brought your "A-game" today Jim. Some good points. And worded so vividly, as only you can.
Wow, you hit it right on the head! "surrounded by entitlement mentality, armed, hostile idiots"!
Wow, you hit it right on the head! "surrounded by entitlement mentality, armed, hostile idiots"!
Wow, you hit it right on the head! "surrounded by entitlement mentality, armed, hostile idiots"!
"I could count the number of female Bison readers on one hand.."
and jimbo, which hand would that be ? the one you stroke with or the one you wipe with ?
"they are buttcrack deep in the control of the wife...."
hey, jimbo is that misogynist sarcasm, or do you still have some unresolved conflicts with your mom or dad ?
"And 99.999% of wives will have nothing to do with preparing for the future."
PRAY FOR THE CHILDREN, cause they ain't going to make it; all those precious little ingrate fatties, boo hoo hoo.
well, i have been using the wood stove for a spell, and it sort of got summer like these past 2 days. there was even a cartoon in the local fag rag today lampooning the 2012 doomsday folk.
"it's all a fantasy, everything is fine..."
well it ain't fine, the ecology collapsed, we already entered 'the time of turmoil'... don't bother wasting your time with folk that don't know which end of a shovel to use... it's too late for them.
Jim
Good post!
Re: Right now you get an easy one, why survivalists have no sense of community and why we are paranoid loner nut jobs
You forgot to mention another reason. The PTB "Waco solution"
DW
One of the biggest reasons that preppers don't get together in groups is that it is a gathering of cheifs, and not enough indians. Too much fussy and fighting on who is in charge.
Also there is, as Jim mentioned, the worry of back stabbing, or perhaps I should say back shooting for supplies.
panhandletex
Hope for the best but trust NO ONE. Man (and Woman) can ALWAYS be counted on to act FIRST in their best interest when the chips are down -- and that would indeed include sponging off you (with whining, threats, sneak attacks, whatever).
Count me in as another female fan in the 0.001%!
Yes, I'm sure almost all of us have seen the Twilight Zone episode 'The Shelter'. Really points up the need for maintaining operational security. I've been trying to speak in a sort of plausibly deniable code for some time with those closest to me, with very mixed results. The hard part is getting folks to contemplate the need for storing a fair bit of food and other supplies without heavily implying that I'm doing the same (and, truth be known, I suspect I've only about 2 months of calories for my family on hand although it is all in the form of stuff with fairly long shelf life that we eat all the time. Were I more motivated and rational, I'd try to accumulate enough food for a year for as many people as I'd estimate that I'd need to recruit to defend said stockpile/hoard. Anyone have a guess as to how many they think they'd need for that purpose? Unfortunately, my gut says its probably in the neighborhood of 30 if you're in a suburban area like I am, and 30 Million is a lot of calories. For food in the 2000 calorie a pound range, that's on the order of 15000 pounds.
Only recently discovered your blog and going though some of the older post I found your post on your bike.
I'm a year round bike commuter, riding on asphalt and dirt roads on a mid range bike shop bike. Problems have been rare and minor over the last five years of riding. I have a shoebox full of spare parts that if calamity should strike should keep me up and running for at least a couple of years.
A new bottom bracket should run $30-50.
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David:
Yup, 30-40 adults is a reasonable estimate. This includes 24/7/365 security plus misc work details: water, food [growing, gathering & prep], cleaning, & maintenance. I don't think you can do it with fewer unless as Jim has pointed out numerous times in the past you go nomad and move around all the time. Even as a nomad you'll need at least squad sized groups (assuming they are trained) to deal with any bad situations you stumble upon.
Best bet, IMHO, is to do your own preps first then set aside for others who will inevitably arrive (and possibly be needed, as above) while you work to convince neighbors and friends to start putting aside preps.
Everyone who is serious and thinks long term must face the reality that you will have to form a group to have a shot at long-term survival. After all, what is the point of surviving all alone for an extended period. Solitary confinement is punishment for a reason.
Jim,
Well, I give you credit for addressing the issue again. Here is my tentative reply.
You bring up a valid concern: if you form a group to prep, it is likely many will not live up to their commitments.
Does this mean that the only response is to keep your preps secret? Probably that is wise.
However, this does not answer the question, what is the size of the post-collapse society? I still maintain that those people who form larger, more integrated groups with multiple skill sets will do much better. Some states, such as South Dakota, have such a low-population density and food-growing capability, that they will easily maintain themselves at that scale. However, they may not have enough fighting-age men to defend the resources. They will have to make alliances: for example, South Dakota might trade food to Minnesota for some of Minnesota's much higher manpower and technical resources.
In the end, family's must prepare for themselves, while working together at higher levels of organization.
Furthermore, you can participate in local government without spilling the beans on your preps. Eventually, if you look too plump compared to everyone, this might be a problem.
Finally, what is the best, most common foodsource available in the wild almost everywhere in the country where there are wetlands? This resource alone could feed a large percentage of any local population. Just tell people you are eating this, and that can explain your extra baby fat.
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