TOXIC BUCKETS
Before we start today, a heads up if you need some wool blankets. www.sportsmansguide.com has a great deal, four blankets of 100% wool for $18 plus shipping, or 16 for $60. I’m not going to order any as I bought a dozen years ago plus I have been picking them up one at a time as I find them. I’m sure I have at least sixteen of them already. They measure five by six ( actually 5 1/3 by 6 ¾ ). Don’t wait to order, they are limited quantity. Search under order # lx9m-48395 or lx9m-86812.
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We’ve talked about Wal-Mart plastic poly buckets for grain storage, but I think it’s been awhile and a reminder is always nice. I was reminded as I was reading Rawles Preparedness Course I was given by a minion. No way I would have dropped over a hundred bucks on a course on how to shop at Costco. A good thing too, because the course is only suitable for newbies. If you are new to the field of preparedness, and if you plan to stockpile food by duplicating your everyday grocery items, and if you have a huge family, then this course will pay for itself. Otherwise, it is way overpriced. But I don’t want you to think I’m trying to kill you by giving you bad advice. I’m all about helping a brother out by being able to shop on an extremely limited budget, but that doesn’t include advice that is dangerous ( yes, I know advising you to arm yourself with anything other than semi automatic weapons is endangering you, but other than that…[that was sarcasm by the way] ). I think that worrying about toxic buckets is overblown, personally. I’m not saying there isn’t a risk. Perhaps there is. I’m not a chemist, and I don’t play one on TV. This is one of those things you need to decide on your own. Just like with semi’s. Do you want to be able to saturate the air with lead for a few firefights before you run out of ammo, or do you want to conserve your rounds by using a bolt action? Either strategy can get you killed, you have to decide which is better ( and don’t tell me about fire discipline- 99% of survivalists don’t have the training for that ).
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I certainly wouldn’t fault you for taking Rawles advice on using Wal-Mart buckets ( I would fault you on taking some of his other advice but it isn’t personal- he is just the current epitome of Yuppie Survivalist Guru ). If in doubt, don’t try to poison yourself. I still think it is better to store your grain in paint buckets if that is all you afford than not get the grain in the first place. To remind you, the Wal-Mart paint buckets are labeled as food grade plastic. Rawles is warning you that the cheaper chemicals added to the plastic are toxic, turning food grade plastic dangerous. I still use them, both to store post Apocalypse food in and as water buckets I fill up each week for my water supply. I look at it this way. The plastic may or may not be as bad as warned. It is like aluminum verses stainless steel cooking pots. Aluminum most likely isn’t as bad as they are warning about, but just in case over time I switched completely over to stainless. I’ll do the same with the plastic buckets. For now, I’m not panicking. But to be on the safe side I’ll try to avoid buying anymore buckets not made specifically for food ( which might be another plus when buying the Wal-Mart wheat-in-buckets from the Preparedness aisle- you know for sure the bucket is OK verses do-it-yourself ).
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If you don’t have two or three years of wheat per person ( 400 pounds a year each ) as a Deep Crap Food Store, I would hurry up and buy your wheat, regardless of whether it is store bought, feed store, food grade or paint bucket. The risk of not having the wheat is far higher than having buckets that may or may not have crap leaking from them. If you listened to every panic attack about our food containers you wouldn’t be drinking bottled water or giving your infant a plastic bottle to suck out of. Let alone the “edible” items from them. We live in a world of pollution. I’m not saying to go out of your way to ingest them, but I am saying to weigh risks rationally. Just don’t do it talking on a cell phone or standing near a microwave oven. You might be irradiated! ( again with the sarcasm ).
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The "wool" blankets are actually 70% synthetic and 30% wool (of some sort).
2 gallon-ish food grade plastic bags can be had for about 25 bucks per thousand.
Really stopped by because I thought you might like this site about homemade backpacking stoves I stumbled upon.
http://zenstoves.net/LinksGeneral-DIY.htm
Yup. It doesn't matter the bucket source or what was in it if you put your food in heat sealed bags. Yes this takes more time and costs a bit more, but you can buy large heat-sealable plastic to make bags pretty cheap online and use the iron the seal them. If you have an idea how much wheat you'll need in a week, the seal in that size bag to make use easier WTSHTF.
Jim: I had problems with my bike when using the newer green puncture goop when the weather got cold too. (I betcha they changed the formula to save a few bucks and now it doesn't hold as well when the rubber gets cold). I finally had to get a new tube in October. Better to get a new $3 tube than to trash a rim with a blowout or more pumping before and after work every dayin the ^&%$ rain.
BTW new bike works OK. She's already getting nice and scuzzy so it doesn't look appealing to thieves.
I had a thought for the extreme frugal. I have an old fridge that Ive been using to store grain for the horses. Its down in its back, so the doors open up-wards. The vent on the back was sealed with duck tape. I haven't had a rodent get in yet. I have plenty of mice everywhere else around the buildings.
Of coarse this is not an ideal situation. A person could use caulking to seal vents. Bag there food then store in the fridge or old freezer.
Again its not idle just cheap. The fridge could be found for free. It would require a large space to store/park it. It would also need to be stored in the shade, or better yet the dark to avoid condensation.
Toxic release agents have me very worried, so worried I'm gonna go have a cigarette and ponder it more.
James, I had a great idea to drive the food food and more food point home and if I used it on my blog not all that many would see it.
You've brushed on the cannibalism in desperate times, how about much more common starvation ingredients sawdust and clay in bread loaves.
Does anyone have a good tasting recipe for sawdust loaves????
sawdust is a common adulterant in processed corporat food. one reason not to eat an alleged hamburger at McDungs. it may not be people but it ain't entirely meat.
the nazi's unsuccessfully experimented with turning sawdust into bread. apparently, there's just not much of anything tasty, edible, or nutritious in cellulose.
I am amused at those who disdain the bolt action rifle because it is slow to operate.
In sitting position starting cocked and locked with round in chamber of 03A3 3006, my best time for 5 hits on man silhouette target 100 yards away was 19 seconds.
I wish others would report their best time for five hits at 100
with bolt rifle and with their favourite semiauto, or full auto. Perhaps they will be kind enough to instruct us in rifle marksmanship.
Controlled fire is difficult with a semi-auto. Even a good shooter will pull the trigger several times after the magazine is empty. That tells me the shooter have lost rifle harmony on the range.
I can see great points for both actions. Ether way practice with a bolt action is the best way to improve marksmanship.
I was glad to see Vlad mention the 30/06. There is a caliber you dont hear enough about anymore. The 30/06 was a military round; back when we fought wars to win.
A .223 is a round for police actions.
For me quick, accurate & .30-06 don't belong in the same sentence unless the word NOT is in there. I'll stick with my lever .357, it's not ideal, but I don't shoot that much and I can handle it quickly and accurately. What's the point if you can't hit what you're aiming at?
Same goes for long distance shots. If someone's hunkered down and sniping at me from 250 yards out the chances that I could hit them (regardless of what I'm shooting) are somewhere between slim and none. I'd be better off on focusing on getting the heck out of there.
I agree the best caliber is whatever the shooter is most comfortable with.
For me the 30/06 is the balls.
I would prefer 300win mag but ammo prices make it impractical,to stock up.
I have a Rem 740 30/06 that's a semi-auto with detachable 10 rd. magazine and a factory short barrel.
Its well balanced and for me its quick and easy to whiled. Very accurate.
I aint been by in a coons age, just one of those things that keeps happening, but a couple comments I agree about the buckets, if anyone knows of anything better other than building a pyramid to store grains in let me in on it. Buy a roll of 1 mil or 2 mil Mylar and use your solder gun and fuse a bag together that goes inside the bucket, add your desicant packs and if you are really hardcore add a chunk of dry ice in the bottom as you put your grain in, the dry ice drives out the oxygen and you seal it up for future use [ok not cheap or frugal or "green" but...]
on Aluminum and other metals, acids are what leach off any metal into a consumable form, cooking non-acidic foods will go a long way to keep you safe if you use an aluminum pot to cook in. Cast iron when used will leach off enough iron to keep your body tuned up, and finally some stainless steels are just not up to long term use, some are very thinly coated which goes back to the old adage buy quality and you cant go wrong [most of the time] Ive got or had some so called stainless steel that is/was rusted, t found its way to the scrap yard for recycling into what ever they do with nikel plated/amalgamated steels.
As far as firearms are concerned, I have only one semi-auto, and that was purchased back in 1974 when the ruger 10-22 came out.... if more semi-s had that style mechanism for a lock, they would be more accurate.... fire displine is still up to the individual, no one is ever not affected to "excitement" and loss of control at some point in their life.
have ya seen the projections for gold and silver prices recently? Holy cow, china to increase their strategic reserve by 10 over the next few years.
William
north central Idaho
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