ECONOMY LEAST OF YOUR PROBLEMS
I would like to thank our good buddy Creekmore for today’s article idea. If you zip on over to his web site at
http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/ you will read an article on post crash occupation ideas. Nothing fun like I’ve brought you such as honey wagon operator or
prostitute
, but a few thoughts on what occupations would be suitable. I thought the article mainly covered an economic collapse, and what would be apropos afterwards. He did warn that his advice did not cover a complete collapse. Which is where I come in. The
Great Depression
, the Argentina collapse, Zimbabwe are of course all the wrong lessons to be learned. The
Fall Of Rome 
is our only barometer as far as recorded history goes. Yes, you do have to contend with an economic collapse. You know, the one we are already in and the one that has its bottom always advancing sometime in the future. But that is just the warm up to the end of the
Oil Age
.
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This is where I’m parting company with most of my minions. They think green shoots are going to blast out of Obammy’s butt any day. They have to, because otherwise that means the home is in jeopardy, the pension is toast, their SUV will run out of gas and the forests will be stripped of firewood the first winter of the oil import freeze. I might be wrong, but I don’t plan around that fact. I plan around being right. This way I’m prepared for the worse possible scenario. If you act paranoid and nothing bad happens, you can enjoy it. If you act optimistic and bad things happen you will be disappointed. In an Energy Up history, economic collapses ended with the government getting bigger. The government took over some of the private sector activities and paid for it with
inflation
. The cost to each person was disguised. The means the government used was increased energy inputs ( petroleum, or wheat, the form of energy increased ). In an Energy Down history, power contracts. Your oppressive government never goes away, true, it just changes form. From national or even continental to county or city state or village. Despite the kind of collapse we see, total or simply economic, government will play a huge role in your occupation and other activities.
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In a total
collapse
, you will see a slight period of time between when the ruled from afar government collapses and when the local bandits fight out amongst themselves who is going to be in charge.
Self reliance
helps you survive this period. However, after that, you go back to being dependant on others. In today’s economy, you are not allowed to be self sufficient. You are forced to join the money economy and render unto Caesar. After a collapse, you are going to be doing what you are told to do in the brave new economy. Most of us will be serfs farming. While it is going to be swell to have skills, keep in mind we are not going to be free to utilize them. Stop thinking about prospering in the free market ( everyone will need guns fixed, honey, etc. ) and instead think about what it is going to take to either escape local rule or better your prospects with the local king.
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The way I see it, you either go with the
Robin Hood
idea ( hiding out in an uncontrolled region and stealing from others ) or try for a skill that will be in demand by the local ruler. My best guess would be chemist able to build from scratch ( not pre made stocks brewed in factories using petroleum but processing from raw ore and such ). Or a gun and ammo manufacture. Not repairing what we have but being able to fabricate new and useful weapons. I don’t know if it will have to be
black powder
. But most of us won’t have access to heavy weapons ( they will be left in Iraq and Afghanistan ) and they are vital for warfare. Of course, then we go back to the availability of nitrates. It isn’t that a gunsmith won’t be useful. He will. But I think rather than a professional being able to corner a market we will instead see it as just another minor skill. The ammo will run out before most guns will need to be repaired. It would be better to be able to replace the powder and primers than to repair the weapons. But don’t fall back into the free market trap. Try to keep in mind that you will be forced to labor as the ruler needs, not as the market does.
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Just because we have a choice today picking a job doesn’t mean we aren’t controlled in that process. Almost all traditional jobs are denied us. They are allowed as hobbies, but because of that few know them. We are only allowed to choose between a certain number of newer tech jobs or services. After a
collapse
, your choices will be similarly constricted. By government. Before or after, you are told how to live and work. It isn’t a free market paradise in either case. So go ahead and garden now. Don’t worry about a post collapse skill. You are going to be a serf in the fields. Get really good at growing food and you can swing a position as foreman. Then you might get enough calories to live on. Stop by anytime for more cheerful instructions.
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29 comments:
Based on your total collapse scenario, first there will be a large die-off as food runs out, power fails to be delivered, and the people turn into mobs and destroy everything. Eventually tribes and local strong men will rise up and then there will be a local government of some sort, i.e. tribalism, fuedalism, theocracy, etc.
If such a scenario happens, most knowledge will be lost because almost all survivors will be the young and fit, but they'll have little knowledge of metalurgy, chemistry, or power production.
If you survive, and if you have the right knowledge, skills, and can scavange the right tools, you can become the local strongman's wizard. And wizards can live a good, comfortable, and interesting life. Read "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthurs Court" by Mark Twain for a possible post SHTF feudalist scenario.
So any way you look at it, knowledge and skills will always be valuable - Now, during a severe economic collapse, or after a Yellowstone super-volcano eruption.
A couple of other advantages are that knowledge and skill cannot be taken away from you like food/gold/silver, and you can transfer your knowledge and skills to your children (without taxation).
Even 2000 years ago, everyone was not a serf plowing the fields, there were carpenters, magicians, moneylenders, soldiers, stonemasons, fishermen, preachers, politicians, teachers, scribes, etc.
Excellent post Jim.
Two of those guys (Creekmore and Ferfal) want ot make a buck off of the survive/prep movement.
Depending on your point of view, their heads are either half way up, or halfway out.
They refuse to intellectually deal with the possibility of a TOTAL collapse.
YOU KNOW WHO
Delusional disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis denoting a psychotic mental disorder that is characterized by holding one or more non-bizarre delusions[1] in the absence of any other significant psychopathology.
Ronald Reagan quotes:
If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
If hauling ass on bike with rifle and 60 to 100 lbs of gear electric assist helps on hills.
Your BOV bicycle should be very sturdy. Consider these.
Husky industrial
http://tinyurl.com/ytjy4v
Worksman
http://worksmancycles.aitrk.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/indbikes.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV4FxzprGfg&feature=related
This is 408 Crystalyte motor 72 volt hotrod
Hill Topper is less powerful, but allegedly adequate
installation video
3:24! Fastest electric bike conversion kit in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC_4Oif-dgI
http://cleanrepublic.com/lithium_electric_bike_kit.html
bike with Hill Topper installed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-470StUEyQ
January 26, 2009 http://cleanrepublic.com/hill_topper_electric_bike_conversion_kit.html
Hill Topper Classic electric bike wheel kit available for sale. Unlike other complex electric bike kits, Clean Republic's kits are designed for simple, quick installation on almost any bike in the world. These kits are lighter, more efficient, easier to use, and easier to install than any other.
The Hill Topper Classic kit includes SLA batteries that hook right to the side of the electric hub motor bike wheel. The batteries contain enough power to take you 10 miles with no pedaling, and are light enough not to interfere with normal usage of your bike. The whole kit including wheel, hub motor, and batteries weighs only 15 pounds.
Ride your bike just like you always have, but when you get tired, have a windy day or get to that one nasty hill, just press the button for a big boost of power assistance! These motors effectively double the strength of the average bike rider, kicking in with 150-250 watts of assistance depending on which model you use.
Ultra light and compact lithium batteries are being tested now. Stay tuned!
http://www.electricrider.com/index.htm
Several electric bike conversion kits. Phoenix Brute looks good.
http://www.electricrider.com/crystalyte/index.htm
Oh Mighty Bison .....
As always your position is the most pessimistic and paranoic and therefore, I think, the most realistic.
For many of us, our own world has ended as we know it. And what I find myself doing, and observe others whose worlds have ended, is a number of things as opportunity offers. Scrounging, panhandling (I hate it but can't guarantee I won't have to do it again) making and selling crafts, selling stuff I'm given or find, acting as "junkyard watchdog" for someone who's on track to become a local warlord, as much as he's repelled by that idea, etc.
Scroungy, opportunistic, human rats.
Why not just die? You can spend all your time fretting and worrying and saving and storing and you will die. Or you can just live and when the collapse comes (and it is coming) you can just die.
Same result.
Jim you need to write a philosophical piece on "why survive". What's the point?
HEY DAKEN- Good post man!
Anon 2:36, I don't know Mr. Dakin, and therefore am speaking completely speculatively. However, I think the point is that Mr. Dakin is living "as if" in order to teach us something. That qualifies as a higher purpose in life. Plus, his quality of life is enhanced by the fact that he is not a debt slave. He owes nobody anything. Finally, he is an intellectual. He reads voraciously. Those three factors by themselves would constitute a satisfying life to most people.
The icing on the cake is that he has good health and at least one person who loves him, not counting his children.
Altogether, the makings a good life.
Not meaning to put words in your mouth, Mr. Dakin, no offense meant.
Good post and good advice.
After re-reading my post I realize it sounds like my comments are directed specifically at Jim. I'm sorry, I wasn't clear.
I'm not directing them to Jim personally. I'm asking in general what is the point of survival. Jim says sometimes that the last one in the pot wins. This is just silly of course. One way or the other I'm going to die and it doesn't seem like any amount of preparation is going to change fate. So I can get all upset and worried and fearful prepping in order to possibly live a little longer or I can not care and die anyway. Seems to me like a pretty simple choice.
anon 2:36
The point of survival is ..... the winner(s) get to go back to the garden. Figuratively as well as literally.
And besides, do we have a choice? To live at all, will increasingly mean becoming a prepper. I'm damn glad I bought 6 month's worth of toiletries and stuff when I realized that winter means NO work for 4 months around here. I'm wearing fluffy indoor boots I got on a 110-degree day last summer, and glad I did! I plan to get more warm stuff this summer right when it's hot and no one's buying it. I may get up to a whole $1000-on-a-good-month level in income this summer, I may not. Windfalls or just good pays go into preps.
I'm getting used to living on less and less. One thing I'm not doing this year is drinking. I'm gonna coin a term here, Mildaholic. That's someone who's mildly an alcoholic, they have an internal limiter, and they can function fine, but they have a thirst. Just a little thirst, but they can really get into that habit of feeding that thirst every day. Well, last night I decided to treat myself, and got a bottle of E&J brandy, which is the fine-sippin' smooth stuff of the cheap booze world. And darned if I didn't feel like having any when I got home, because it was late, and my throat felt scratchy etc etc etc so I get up today and I've got stuff to do, and do stuff and now it's just sippin' time but .... I don't feel like it tonight either! Because I have to study some stuff and want to read this book I borrowed, and dang it, tomorrow I've got running around to do etc and so at this rate, that screw-off top may not get screwed off any time soon. And this is very interesting and cool, because it means I've adjusted to one less expense, because my drinking cost me $60 a month at least. That's a lot of .22 ammo, various preps and supplies.
Creekmore's got a good site but I posted a longish comment and his site shitcanned it so fuck the guy. No, wait, I don't float that way, BlackDog, where are youuuuuu?
CaNative,
I have met some great people since I've been publishing The Survivalist Blog - unfortunately I've also met some of the rudest, self absorbed whiners out there.
If you had a problem posting comments on my blog would it not have been prudent and correct to have contacted me personally so we could figure out the cause of the problem?
Going to another blog and posting a comment such as yours shows a complete lack of respect for yourself, Mr. Dakin and the readers of this blog.
Screw you Creekmore, don't you have some more annoying blinking, spinning, ads to go put up on your site?
If you can't have your site where the average reader can post, then fuck ya, I won't be back.
CaNative,
I'll keep you in my prayers may God bless you and your family. I hope you find whatever it is you are looking for.
CaNative we will all pray for you you sound like you need it. Teenage boy with an attitude problem. Creekmore pay no attention to boys like that he obviously has a lot of growing up before becoming a man.
I've had it with creekmore too. He seems to be in it for the money.
Anonymous 4:35 AM
God forbid someone should try to make a profit for their efforts.
Must be why he made his ebook a free download because he is only in it for the money?
Hay at least he doesn't ask you to buy his crap at the end of every post like Dakin.
Or beg you to buy his books or donate to his 10 cent challenge like James Wesley, Rawles.
Anyhoo lately I've read more comments here about Mr.Creekmore than about the actual blog post or Dakin himself. Apparently Mr.Creekmore is doing something right it he is dominating the comments on another bloggers blog.
Go Creekmore.
Creekmore rules.
CaNative:
Youre my hero.
Youre defenitibly right I posted some correct and on the subject comment on Creeckless blog and same thing happen. he does not accept the truth.
The guy is for the money.
Keep it going CaNative.
The hell with that guy.
Once he got sponsor he slacked and do not post like before, every is repetition of other blogs or he invite people to have ideas 'cause he can not think of one for himself.
I'm sorry guys, but you are wrong bagging on Creekmore. He is getting paid for his considerable efforts, just like I am. He and I go about it differantly. Nothing wrong with it, and nothing wrong with keeping a tight control on comments. Please keep it a bit more civil commenting on other blogs or writers. And besides, you can't pull off sarcasm like I do so please don't try. Did I just go there? Oh no you did not, girlfriend.
Get a real job creekmore and quit trying to live off of those in fear of their future. How lame to come here as anonymous to defend yourself.Use your real name when defending your greed on here.
"If you had a problem posting comments on my blog would it not have been prudent and correct to have contacted me personally so we could figure out the cause of the problem?"
Hi Crickmore, I wish to apologize to both you and Jimbo because when I carry on, I carry on... The vehement is meant as an alternative to think about.
NOT a personal insult, just because my life works differently. So i will email you eventually.
hang in their brother.
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