Monday, January 25, 2010

gun control questions

GUN CONTROL QUESTIONS


Around four years ago I read “Enemies Foreign And Domestic” by Matthew Bracken. I just finished reading it again after a loyal minion sent me the trilogy by that author. I enjoyed it the first time, not minding the high price tag at all. I would never, ever, spend the money they want for fiction new releases. $35 for a new hard back. Inconceivable! Most mass market fiction is not worth spending five bucks an hour on. Especially since it will be out in paperback soon enough. But for genre specific books, I don’t mind at all. I spent the unheard of sum of over $30 for “Unintended Consequences” back in the early to mid nineties. Not once but twice. My goodness, now that was, and still is, the giant of militia books. Just as it doesn’t appear that anyone will ever top Ayn Rand and “Atlas Shrugged”, I can’t believe anyone will ever come close to “Consequences”. Bracken probably comes as close as is possible. Not that I particularly love militia fiction. It is a nice change of pace but it certainly isn’t my everyday cup of tea. But when it is done right it is if nothing else very entertaining. Bracken does it right. He certainly deserves the price of his books. I have nothing but good to say about them. I’m about a third into the second book, “Domestic Enemies” and I love that even more. Bravo.

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Of course, as much as I like the fiction tale of Second Amendment rights being fought for, you know where I stand on the issue. I feel that until folks actually have an empty belly they won’t fight back, regardless of how patriotic they are. Too many times we’ve seen gun rights assaulted with nothing more than a whimper and a brief upsurge in the sales of PVC pipe as everyone buries their plastic poodle shooters. But reading the book did bring up some questions in my mind. I know you are going to dismiss them, as you always do. But perhaps at least I can plant a seed of doubt that will eventually germinate and once I am dead you can look back and say, hey, maybe that beautiful bastard had a point after all. I wonder if the battle to control guns isn’t pretty much a scam. How, please hear me out. I know this seems silly because of course all oppressive regimes want to keep their citizens from shooting back. But there are certainly more than one way to skin a cat and the way to control Americans isn’t necessarily the same one used in Germany or Chile. Are we being feed the wrong set of worries to distract us from the real agenda?

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I’m sure that our political toadies sincerely believe in their crusade. Whether pro or anti gun, they fight for what they believe in. Or what they are told to believe in by their voters. Not that the voters really are anything more than window dressing. I believe in true voter control like I believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. It is part of the illusion to keep the herd quiet and lined up at the slaughter chute. But the politicians are among most of the “American Democracy Myth” believers. They themselves are controlled by the bankers. If the power to control the purse is with the bankers then the politicians will dance to the tune of the paymaster. But the politicians are like most people and lie to themselves to face the image in the mirror the next day. They truly believe. Which makes it much easier to control the whole process. I’m not claiming that “the gnomes of New York” sit in a smoke filled room and micromanage the politics that safe guard their financial empire. They don’t have to. They set macro policy and the details, while messy, pretty much sort themselves out. As long as unimaginable amounts of money continue to flow into their pockets, it is all good. Do you really think the bankers care if you are armed or not? In fact, I believe it is far better for them if you are actually armed with an evil assault weapon.

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If you are a fat cat banker with a mansion and an armored limousine, do you care if some punk ass bitch with a carbine takes a few pot shots at you? What is the harm? The range and penetration is crap. Since you most likely don’t own an antique bolt action in thirty caliber, the tactics of the issue are in their favor. Not to mention they live in a urban, more heavily controlled area. But strategically, they are even safer. If the punk even thinks you exist. 999 times out of a thousand the perceived target is one of your paid flunkies, the politicians. Who are protected anyway, courtesy of the taxpayer. The bankers have little to fear due to their hiding in plain sight behind false targets. The idiots in an investment firm with public outrage directed at “performance” bonuses? Smaller cogs in a much larger machine. More false targets. The politicians might care if the public is armed or not. But the bankers only care about controlling the money. And every last Constitutionalist is led around by the wallet. And since the more important issue to the banker is that the politicians never slip their leash, the regular mode of operation is to have two sides which pretty much cancel each other out. One side pro gun control, pro socialist, pro health care reform and the other side pro gun, pro free market. Slowly but surely a little bit more power is always grabbed by the politicians but since obviously no one side ever gets irreversible control it is all still in the hands of the real masters.

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A politician gets too big for his britches and there are many ways to respond, from letting the trained dogs in the CIA perform a little wet work to allowing an under represented political party to achieve a “surprise” victory. Which are performed by an army of underlings least the big boys ever get too close to such mundane details. Deniability through hundreds of layers. I’m not claiming I’m so smart I can figure all this out on my own. I’m just wondering aloud how the pieces fit when the bought and paid for politicians constantly cancel each other out generation after generation. To include gun control efforts. You are being ruined economically, which leaves no target for all your guns to be used against. And you will be controlled by food. The bankers don’t care if you are armed. They will be out of the country by the time you start using your arms to keep yourself fed. In the meantime, they stop any potential revolution. Most areas are strictly controlled, with a few parched and unproductive areas allowed to keep gun ownership as an escape valve from the urban areas. Does it strike you that the freest gun states are almost the same places the American Indians were banished to after all their good land was taken away. Think about it.

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30 comments:

kevin said...

A well(good) regulated(all the proper parts) militia being necessary for a free state(THIS WHOLE STATEMENT IS A PREAMBLE)the RIGHT of the PEOPLE(not cops, dea, irs,dod and ect.)to keep and bear ARMS(military weapons of the day) shall NOT be infringed! CASE CLOSED!

kevin said...

HEY DAKEN- GOOD POST TODAY (I can't just tell you when you SUCK ASS SWEAT, got to give you the complements(it's hard to type)with the insults(easy to type, and FUN)

bigunsfan said...

Good post Lord Bison.

Happy Birthday!

Anonymous said...

Well.
I'm a banker also a very rich person, got my preps and my armory not in one or three locations around the country but in several nations that allowed me to have built up to three bunkers in ea.

I must remain anonymous for security reasons, # 1 your followers are poor and uneducated, totally opposite from what I'm. # 2they are poor and their meager preps. do not compare to mine. #3 I have a couple of ladies that I support in exchange for sex. they are bueatiful and young, classy and I do not wish to expose them to these low lifers.

Their cheap rifles and hanguns, shotgun and all the array of others toys they have, the full amount of monies invested on them not even cover one of my specially custom made rifle. At $ 60,000.00 a rifle can prove that.

Go ahead minions keep bowing to your lord in rags while I enjoy my caviar and champagne in one of my several bunkers with my two companions.

The CEO and CFO on one of my many corp"s

James Rotwieller I (that means the first.)

kevin said...

I work at Bear Sterns! FUCK!! I THOUGHT IIIIIIIIIIIIII WAS THE ONLY CEO THAT CAME TO THIS BLOG!

Anonymous said...

Don't forget to keep a good pig sticker or 2 when the rich folk come around looking for you to kick in for a campaign contribution.

Rich folk taste better than poor folk but stay away from the diseased parts. Probably you'll be able to feed the whole town, they've been bleeding for generations. And I bet they taste better than worms...

Clem said...

i gots a pig sticker for the rich folks.wheeeeeeee

CaNative said...

OK first, I'm reading all the Bison archives working up from the beginning, I think I'm in January of 2007.

A lot of people are complaining about the recoil of the .30 caliber bolt guns. This is a valid point. I'm sure a lot more fear it and have just been keeping quiet. I'm a 5'4" 140-lb shrimp and I can fire the Garand or an M14 all day, using mil surplus ammo so it's not light reloads, those rifles sort of shove, that's it. The M16 should be less annoying recoil wise bit I find it more. But a bolt gun's gonna have a recoil like a shotgun, ow. So, you'll have to work on technique, fit, and maybe just a bit of padding. There's nothing saying you can't put a shotgun recoil pad on your bolt gun or incorporate padding into your "duty wear". You'll have to homebrew or jerry-rig it if you're going to keep frugal, but look into this. Good technique is free, and helps the most - you have to pull that rifle INTO your shoulder so it's already in there and the recoil doesn't "whap" it into there.

Secondly, we proles out here KNOW you banksters and economic elite are prepping. We read Survivalblog too. You are not surprising us.

In a controlled world, like England, Orwell's "1984", or the America of the 1980s on, if you were a member of the rabble, you'd earned your way there. You'd been selected through at least a few generations for low IQ, low ambition, short-term thinking, etc. This was reinforced by a culture that punished striving. The elite could smile and consider themselves superior, because frankly, compared to a random sample of "stray cats" out on the street. they WERE. The most a working-class person given the same IQ and ambition of a Wall Street player could achieve was to become a Main Street player in their town, the town's best plumber or haberdasher.

But the strata are no longer so settled. Be prepared for a new breed of stray cat. Now you have people who'd normally be middle-class, aspiring to be upper-middle-class in a generation or two, instead landing in the homeless shelters. People who'd never find themselves living in an old trailer on half what Bison makes, who'd normally have gotten a PhD in some variety of science or engineering, gone into business, become loyal aspirants to your class. Syncophants thereof. Subscribers to The Economist and Forbes.

We've lost everything. We've seen family and colleagues turn their backs on us. We've turned our sales skills to hustling crafts and panhandling, turned our social skills and scientific curiousity to learning to swim like fish in the sea of the homeless people, of the down-and-out. And we're PISSED. We're too smart to punch people out on the street (at least not and get caught) we've read our Kurt Saxon and Ragnar Benson in our high school and college years, we were the smart kids who played pranks. A good part of the stuff was not just read, it stuck.

There are hundreds of thousands of us now. In a couple of years we'll number millions.

We have lives beyond the next pack of cigs and bottle of Paul Masson. We don't smoke or take drugs, don't tend to have tattoos. Maybe we ought to get tattoos to better disquise ourselves because we're the dangerous ones.

Anonymous said...

". . . right of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms shall not be infringed"

These are 2 separate rights; the right to "keep" or own arms and the right to "bear" or carry/possess them on your person. Under the Constitution, neither of these rights can be impaired.

The mistake people made was that when the government started prohibiting the carrying of firearms in certain areas such as federal buildings, post offices and cities of certain class sizes the citizens should have responded. These laws are unconstitutional but there is precedent now since they were not vehemently opposed when enacted.

-dutch

Anonymous said...

"We don't smoke or take drugs"

Hey! Black Dog, what kind of dope are THEY handing out with the welfare checks out there in HELL A ?

Just a warning for you all !!!

If you haven't read BRAVE NEW WORLD, I demand you do so...you would think your reading the local paper.

CaNative said...

2:34 -

I'm not on Welfare, I certainly qualify but to successfully get Welfare and Food Stamps you have to work at it like a regular job; it has to become a way of life.

You have to spend several days a month filling out forms, petitioning 'em to renew your benefits (they award 'em a month at a time these days and make you work at getting 'em each month) not being disabled, a minor or elderly, I would get NO medical coverage, $200-odd in Food Stamps and very intrusive monitoring and record-keeping. Get a part-time job? Better tell 'em, they're checking up on you anyway, so they can punish you for showing any desire to leave the wonderful food stamp and welfare lifestyle. A single person doesn't get any cash, making the temptation strong to obtain it by "selling" your food stamp benefits - apparently this is still possible with the benefits being awarded on a debit-card. I don't smoke and am too poor to drink, but if I had these habits and wanted to kick them, tuff. Most of the underclass smokes and there are no programs to help 'em kick it or "maintenance" dose of a pack of generics a day because the lower class's smoking problem is highly profitable. So they sell their food stamps, and engage in various underground activities to get them, some legal some not.

I had to panhandle for a bit, a matter of 4 or 5 months. I hate it, but I'm glad I made myself do it, for the experience as well as survival, just so I know I can. A skill I know I may have to use, if at the end of my rope, like knowing you can eat acorns or worms.

I choose to hustle by selling various crafts, I've done cat toys, God's eyes, bundles of herbs - no not THOSE herbs! - and awareness ribbons. I still haven't done poi balls, fez's (just thought of that one today, it may be fun) little marionettes, or Jew's harps (turns out I need a bigger torch to do the soldering). Or any of a number of fun things to try.

I also have a ukulele and may play that for tips.

I'm up for any activity that's not troublesome, un-ethical, or leaves a paper trail. Thus, I'm free to buy or sell a vehicle, take or not take a part time job, pay for needed immunizations with my own damn money, go to EMT school, etc.

The real underclass is easy to control, keep them busy going in and out of the welfare office to keep their 'stamps and rent etc coming in, promise 'em donuts and TV 24 hours a day as long as they sit back and "veg".

The new stray cats, the ex-middle-class, go nuts under these same conditions. We like to do stuff. We just have to do something. We think far ahead enough to realize it's a 12-pack of beer or that tool we need to work on bikes. A bottle of Grant's (grant's kills ants lol!) whiskey at Trader Joe's or a decent .22 cleaning rod. Smoking costs $5 a day, we tend to see that for the mug's game it is. That's a brick of .22 a week even at today's prices.

Brave New World is a great book. First read it at age 12 and several times since.

CaNative said...

BTW Brave New World was a reply, a retort, to 1984.

Orwell thought the new means of social control would be "hard", would be surveillance and jackboots and so on. He was groundbreaking in that, electronics (such as the viewscreen, PA systems, talkies) was a pretty new science. Orweill himself grew up with books, silent movies, and the telegraph. Radio, sound-synchronized cameras, the beginnings of television (in the 1920s) were startling inventions.

Huxley thought about it, and realized it could work a lot better for the powers-that-be to have most of the control "soft". Propaganda that's not obviously so, instead being "often-stated truths". Marketing. Making each class happy and proud to be right where they are.

Of course in the real world you'd get an ingenious combination of "hard" and "soft" control and this is what we have.

Grumpyunk said...

Mr Dakin of the fabulous Hair, I'm curious about the WallyMart wheat. My local one does not carry it so I checked the website w/o any luck. (WalMart will do a drop ship to your local store and you can avoid shipping charges on most things)
Am I just missing something on the huge WalMart site or is there something else I'm missing?
Thanks.

BLACK DOG said...

You rang?

BLACK DOG said...

CaNative,
140 lbs no tat's.....mmm mm......
Age?
you sound delicious!


Anon, they got any drug you want out here.

I will be of parole next month....I'm think of moving to NV or UT.....I cant wait to get out of this shit hole.....The tension here is intense, it wouldn't surprise me if CA imploded this year.

BLACK DOG said...

Jim, I thought you were going to publish the UPC label for the walmart buckets 'o-grub?

BLACK DOG said...

In CA its bare,Arms......Get it I made a funny!

Actually as long as you dont care about the law you can get any gun you want here, almost as easy as drugs.

The farmers in the valley got there water canals shut down. No crop or money for them, Maybe they will stock up arms and do what needs dooin!

James m Dakin said...

If I forget to get the UPC off the wheat the next few days, remind me. I have two buckets in the truck front seat, just a question of remembering to jot them down. Peace.

CaNative said...

Black Dog - well this site is nothing if not diverse, as Jim says, take it easy big fella I don't float that way. I'm sure you learned all kinds of um, techniques in prison too.

You really gonna leave CA? Even Silverlake and North Hollywood? 3 Strikes may say Yes, good luck to you wherever you end up, wherever the soap is slippery to be dropped lol

Budvar said...

"BTW Brave New World was a reply, a retort, to 1984."

No it wasn't, BNW was published in 1932, 1984 wasn't published until 1949.

Mahtomedi said...

Not too bad of a conspiracy theory (thesis) Jim. Yep, the 'powers that be' are pretty damn good at getting Joe and Mary Sixpack worked up about an issue to distract them from the anal reaming (not that there is anything wrong with that, Black Dog - glad your back) they want to give them.

The biggest 'Bill of Goods' sale of the last hundred years was the Republican party convincing so many conservative white working class people that they ,alone, were the answer to the evil intentions of the Liberals. While the conservative working class was worried about their guns, the Republican party was busy shipping their jobs over to China and allowing 10 or 20 million 'wets' to come in and drive down wages for what was left in the blue-collar job market.

You said: "Are we being fed the wrong set of worries to distract us from the real agenda?" You are on to something there. Step back and take in a bigger picture. Then you will see a bigger truth.

Them liberals in their armor plated limo's should realize though, that armor piercing FMJ rounds were legal and bought in MASSIVE quantities by us (not me, of course) rednecks when they still could be had.

Happy Apocalypse everyone.

Anonymous said...

What's the official Bison position on Form 4473s and NCIS checks? In the context of today's post, is it even worth bothering trying to avoid them?

CaNative said...

Budvar - boy did I step in it. Originally I thought Brave New World WAS written in the 30s, so originally I was right; I probably read the year inside one of the copies I read. Then I think I read something on The Nation or Alternet or someplace essentially saying what I just said, in other words, some dickhead didn't do HIS research and I actually allowed my own correct memory of the two books' publishing eras to be swayed.

Huxley sure seems to have been ahead on a lot of things.

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

fukk-- i don' even wanna read. i can't own guns.
but, i'm armed.
come find out, if'n you dare, with what.

BUCK SEXTON said...

Ronald Reagan quotes:
Man is not free unless government is limited.... As government expands, liberty contracts.


Ronald Reagan quotes:
Our natural, inalienable rights are now considered to be a dispensation from government, and freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp as it is at this moment.


Ronald Reagan quotes:
The federal government has taken too much tax money from the people, too much authority from the states, and too much liberty with the Constitution.


Ronald Reagan quotes:
The NRA believes America's laws were made to be obeyed and that our Constitutional liberties are just as important today as 200 years ago. And by the way, the Constitution does not say Government shall decree the right to keep and bear arms. The Constitution says 'The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'

BUCK SEXTON said...

Great post JIM!
I agree, Also I would add the puppet master is likely several puppet masters. Each having their own agendas, sometime the separate agendas share similar needs, it is then that they work for common goal, all the while gaining ground to further there own agendas.

The largest of the masters are a collective socialist movement this movement is furthered by the Democratic party (in the day they were the communist party).....Do not ever vote for a democrat. This party is the largest Villon of our most important rights.(guns money and moving freely)

The next big dog is the world elite they could care less weather or not socialism is in play, they are concerned with profit. This group is not as dangerous because their goals are positioning in power for long term profit.But, the socialist play off their profit to convince us we need the socialist party(democrats) to protect us from them. I'm not promoting republicans except to say when one can choose vote RED. You will lose less rights....

Ok, does any body think Obama won? Not by a legit. election he did not! Look I lived in IA before I did Business there, They would never vote that guy in, its a total scam.....I believe Ca voted him in Those stupid fuckers would vote for Gumby if they thought it would give them free candy.

Speaking of conspiracies JFK was shot because he was an idiot.The CIA got tired of covering his ass,If he remained in power we would have had Nuclear war. He was not respected by Russia and his tact was incompetent. He also ran in Communist circles. There is only one way to fix a Kennedy.








"Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program........." - Reagan

Ronald Reagan quotes:
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals -- if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

BUCK SEXTON said...

BTW:

Jim HAPPY birthday!!!!

BlackDog, Good to see you! Your like a foreign corespondent (CA is a different country).
He mentions the valley farmers: Take this matter seriously, they are restricting our (us people) need to grow wheat, This is yet another attempt by dem/soclist, to increase or need for government assistance.This matter is huge, we will not have enough food for next year, Wheat will go up! We will not have wheat for foreign trade...This will cause the dollar to fall lower....Also causing gold to rise.

BUCK SEXTON said...

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Mahtomedi said...

Buck said: 'There is only one way to fix a Kennedy.'

Hall of Fame comment if there ever was one!

Anonymous said...

Whats a rich person going to pay a body guard when the economy tanks - food and board? How long will it be until body guard gets the idea rich guy is no longer needed and is just offed, taking it all in bargain.

Rich guy knows this and will have quite an adventurous time wondering if his food was poisoned, or will be 'Fredo'd' (Godfather movie reference) at any moment? Gosh, having family members who are close to you as bodyguards is probably a good idea.