Back in the good old days under the very real threat of global nuclear holocaust
the common refrain was that under the horrible post attack conditions, there was very little reason to want to live. I mean, you were losing your hair and crapping blood and all the farmland was poisoned with radiation. A few hardy souls stockpiled their underground fallout shelters
and waited with glee for the commies to kill all our socialists so that a new world order could rise out of the ashes
. Now, I can understand how nuclear war
was not something you wanted to be around after. It would plain suck, and you can almost excuse those that chose to live atground zero 
so as not to feel either the pain or suffer the anticipation. I wasn’t one of them but I can certainly understand the trade off they made. Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we glow in the dark.*
Today, the prospects of nuclear war have increased in probability. But more likely than not it will be a limited war rather than a global one. Not guaranteed, but then what is anymore? Most likely we’ll just get a Chernobyl amount of fallout and die in our fifties rather than sixties, assuming we avoid ending up in the stewpot. But the old complaint still seems to be there. Oh my goodness gracious, how can I be expected to live like a primitive POOR person? Do without my grid and central heat and SUV, sucking at the corporate teet to sustain myself in high style? Never. I would never live primitively, pouring water out of a jug and putting on a sweater to stay warm. I’ll just stay in the city and have every convenience. If the end comes I’ll just bug out to my summer estate in my armored limo. People have gone from not wanting to live like chemo patients to not being able to conceive of living without luxuries. How friggin sad. We have become so conditioned to living an overfed and bloated existence with everything at push button control, we don’t want to survive its end. Live on grain and beans? Inconceivable! If I can’t have my freeze dried canned food I don’t want any at all.
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Why survive? Because we are not a bunch of spineless worms that jump off a bridge when we get too sad. I’m getting all teary that our lives can’t all be perfect. Humans have a built in survival instinct. You prepare to survive if you are a normal human. Who asks this kind of question anyway? Dial 1-800-DarwinWasRightAndIShouldDie, share your feelings, and then blow your brains out and do all of us a favor.
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28 comments:
you want to survive because you are scared to death of what comes after this life
hey jim,
in regards to your chernobyl comment, here is an ineresting video
http://ipb.quicksilverscreen.com/index.php?showtopic=17417&mode=linearplus
you inspired me a few weeks ago to move away from the plunger laundry machine(which was relatively energy intensive) to a rocking chair-esque system. i didn't have a rocking chair, so i took a milk crate and mounted two arcs to the sides. i put some tabs on the bottom to push with my toes. i put my bucket in the crate and push with my toes. once your used to the rocking timing it is easy to operate. as a matter of fact i am washing now as i type. as for the guy that commented that he is too large for the 5 gallon bucket system, i am 6 ft and about 200 lbs. i work outdoors in -10 and below on a daily basis. i can fit carhart bibs(haven't tried the insulated yet),underwear,socks and a couple t-shirts at once. Thanks jim, appreciate the site
Marcus
Hey, this is a pretty good post! I like the content and the length...and the way it's put together!
Yep...all in all, a pretty good post!
Thank you!
White ass??? only in the picture you published.
BTW, how is the weather over there IN AFRICA?
If it get too hot, find a shade next to an elephant.
Welp it would just be regressing here.
When I was seven yr. old i had to draw water from a 120'deep well,feed hogs, milk cows, carry wood(thought my name was "getwood" for the longest time).
Now have a heifer I'm raising for a milk cow and beef cows,pigs chickens.
have a deepwell bucket,crosscut saw, axes, walking plows,cultivators,guns etc. and knowledge on how to use all this "junk".Churns, crocks, hoes etc. also.
i need to pick up a plug for draft purposes in case I can't get fuel for the tractor..Getting old but guess when i play out I can pass the knowledge and wherewithall for survival on to a younger one..
HEY DAKEN- 3 good posts in a row, you feeling ok buddy?
About 6 months ago, I was watching a russian talk show, and they were talking about the negro (their words, I include that so you can see they do not respect him, or the position he is in) cranking the printing press (money) and It was interesting that the topic of FIRST STRIKE(on usa) came up. The russians think WE (obama,hillary,pelosi, name the phsycopath) will start throwing nuclear weapons around when the dollar dies, they could be right. Just a thought!
What no electric,no heat I dont own a sweater,why if I could reach the remote I would turn this computer off!
real men arent afraid to die they know its coming sometime
dakin your just like the people you critixize as yuppie survivalists except your willing to live with less
but your still shaking in fear
Anon 9:30,
A sure sign that he is still sane,and that means his words still command attention and thought. Unlike some blogs with outright fools.
good write!
peace
I wouldn't want to survive specifically because I might have to live on freeze dried canned food.
If we can't get coffee beans or Scotch of other stuff they only make far away, I will consider volunteering fro the stewpot.
'Cause I ain't eating me without a nice full bodies Merlot.
I use to fear nuclear war but now i fear mother nature and our own goverment one wants to be rid of us and the other wants us as slaves I just want to be the oldest pervert in a retirement home some day.so i prep to achive my goal great post, the last 2 weeks have been quality posts glad your back in form!
Well said Lord Bison!
We all were born kicking and screaming and fighting to live, but most have become used to the soft life. People have become creatures of comfort. People dislike inconveniences and discomforts. Faced with a survival situation with its stresses, inconveniences, and discomforts is when the will to live is vital. Placing a high value on living is what will give you the mental and physical strength to endure.
The sense of purposelessness that afflicts many people in modern society is what conditions them to the soft lifestyle. People loose their will. Existentialism is in large part a response to the purposelessness of modern life.
Instincts are lost to modern conditioning. It's too easy to propagate the species. It's about time for a culling! I have an erection just thinking about it!
Freud theorized that humans have certain characteristic instincts that are immutable. Most notable are the desires for sex, and the predisposition to violent aggression towards authoritative figures and towards sexual competitors, which both obstruct the gratification of a person's instincts. Human beings are governed by the pleasure principle, and the pleasure principle is satisfied by the instincts.
The masses of soft and undisciplined will be the first in my stew pot. A credit to social darwinism.
-Loyal Minion.
I want to survive whatever may be coming out of sheer curiosity. I'm too old and relatively under prepared to last that much longer than my idiot sheeple neighbors and co-workers but before I went, I'd want to see exactly who makes it and who craps out immediately.
Trample the weak. Hurdle the dead!
Love the 1-800s Kiss my ass!
Bringing forward my discussion of finances from yesterday, sadly even after governmental and spousal theft you're living on 2X what I can expect to gross.
I remember when $7k was a good year, yes also working 12 hour days, getting around by bike, wasting money and time on night classes at the local college (utter waste!) and paying $150 - $170 (it kept being increased) room rent.
I should seriously send you a book or something though, is your address at Bison Books OK? Can you play DVDs where you are? Fortunately Media Mail's still not too extreme, and I can kick you something once in a while.
Seems like I have read where if you are not at ground zero and if you are in a shelter that you can make yourself, (search the net for instructions) then you could survive a nuclear attack. You would need to be away from the target though so don't be near military bases or large cities. I kind of doubt Elko is on the target list, so I bet Lord Bison would still be around...along with his blog...hope so anyway.
I get a laugh at your column every day. Not "What a tosser laugh", but the grim, "Tell it like it is Friday" belly laugh. Keep it up as long as the power lasts Sir, and when it goes out, make a raft out of your storage drums, do a Thor Heyerdahl, and come over to Australia.
We need you over here.
AKM. Australia
Rayj, I love the "Get Wood" comment.
Not too many people were into bomb-shelters in the Puget Sound region. With huge army and air force bases, a navel base, submarine base, bunch of fuel depots, an oil refinery and all of Boeing's assorted junk, we figured we'd be toast even with the shelters.
I really do wonder what people who can't even make coffee when the power goes out are going to do in the not so far off future.
I figure I'm going to have a ball laughing at them.
Why Survive? That's what I've been asking for years. I don't have a problem w/ wearing sweaters, pouring water out of a jug or crapping in a bucket, but I don't want to do the hard labor involved in getting all my food from farming. Even you, oh ascetic master, take advantage of industrial farms and cheap labor to avoid any true labor of your own.
What is it going to be like post-SHTF when your wheat and bean stockpile run out? You like everyone else will be going back to ancient and labor intensive farming techniques.
Not me. I'll join one of those roving bands of marauders and probably be dead within a year or two.
But I don't believe the end is going to come anytime soon so this is just all fantasy.
hello first timer here
i am not afraid to die but i would like to give it a shot at living thru something like you were talking about too.if nothing else i dont want to kick off and leave my grand kids wondering around by themselves either. besides i like beans and rice and a hunk of bread once in a while works for me i live in the city(las vegas) but could live with alot less if i had too don oh and good blog keep it up
Jim,
A great post!
I have a lot of older friends who laugh at people who say something like: "When I get old, I won't hang on to life, I will just let it go rather than experience the harships of sickness, operations, poverty, handicaps and all the other delights that often come with old age." These old people laugh and say something like, wait until you get old and realize that life is the only thing you got or ever wanted no matter what the harship.
A lot of non-preppers, as their jobs disappear and their trophy wife leaves them and their children turn against them and their larders become empty are going to find themselves in the same position as the old, and will endure any hardship just to live. But then, it will dawn on them, gee, "Why didn't I prep?" as they go down with millions of others.
I dont particularly like creekmore,but it is over the top to be continually calling him obscene names.
Most normal people have a built in survival instinct just like animals.When an animal is in danger they dont think wow I could die and then not be here to see my kids grow up or whatever.
This thinking that people do is where the trouble starts.Some idiots think too much and come to the conclusion that like wouldnt be worth living if "fill in the blank".
Anon 9;30 plays right into my Sunday AM musings. As does the post.
I got moderator deleted off a Frugal's thread one time because I asked/made the statement that if we are not motivated by fear why do "we" all buy ammo by the case. Guess John M. didn't want the dreaded "fear" word to influence sales.
"Fear" or prudent planning? Is there a significant difference?
There are those that say "I'd rather die than live like that".
They have always been around as Jim says; but I maintain that not wanting to glow in the dark back then was no more valid a position than those that say they can't live just to poop in a bucket today.
Spineless worms struggle to survive; they don't jump off bridges. Cockroaches scramble to avoid your size 12's. I doubt they have a metaphysical base for that anon 756.
Most people will do the same when the SHTF. I say until a particular situation is in our face "we" don't know how "we" will react or what a most bestest response should be.
The namby pamby "OOOOOOO NOOO; I couldn't live like that" is just the pretentious prattle of the whiny set. I'm too high class. I'm better than that and you, by the way.
They can't help it ...it's the way they were raised.
Plans to deal with our prime fears are prudent; even tho they will fail. You can't cover your 6 for everything. Trade offs must occur. IMO The great Lord Bison makes the trade off of water to gain seclusion for the oil situation as his prime shtf and does it within his plush yuppie budget. If I KNEW in my heart that oil down was "it" a ragged trailer two lots over from him would be high on my list.
The hordes will flock to the Mt's fields and forests to smoke venison and cutthroat trout and potatoes they've shot over hickory smoke scented campfires in the company of the 4x4 country boys "that will survive". They will make fine targets for the po'ed vets that are sitting on cases of mre's behind their camo-ed reinforced gun ports with planned fields of fire. Jim won't be there.
BUT He may be deep underground busting rock without respite in the shtf chinese take over of the Elko gold mines.
or in the stewpot early for one of his homeless guys.
or out of water completely givin a minor climate shift.
"Can't live like that' would be the first in line to re-bar your anal orifice while droning a whine about poor seasoning.
Shoot them early.
c57
Posts like this make me realize if I was a gay man you, Jimbo, would be the type of dominate male I would want to be with ;P
Hey Anonymous 9:30 AM,Why don't you show everybody how much of a man you are and die first.The goal is to be the last one in the stew pot.
Hi, as you may already found I am newbie here.
Hope to get any assistance from you if I will have some quesitons.
Thanks and good luck everyone! ;)
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