Tuesday, February 09, 2010

third the price is nice

THIRD THE PRICE IS NICE


Baby Jesus on a pogo stick! What a friggin Monday this is turning out to be. Yesterday was a mixed blessing, with wife #4, again!, deciding to leave to go live with her daughter. Good in a way because ever since she came back seven months ago she has been more of a handful than normally ( and not a good handful ). Very high maintenance. Although I’m sorry to see the relationship end it is trading one slightly less stressful problem for the other. If I can convince the Little Brain not to do anything too stupid this should work out as a plus. However, this was also bad in a way since this time she took the cats with her. I’m used to the last five years of the pitter patter of His Lordship moving around at night, nuzzling under the covers, etc. I did not sleep too well last night. So this morning despite a pot plus of coffee I’m totally brain dead. But wait! That’s not all- if you order within the next five minutes we’ll throw in a very rude e-mail from wife #2. I don’t know when she started monitoring my blog. Perhaps one of the kids dropped a dime on me to save themselves from her wraith. But she was gloating over last weeks article, claiming I wasn’t going to see a fifty percent drop in child support since the state will readjust the support on one child upwards. Perhaps. I need to contact them and get an official word. I mean, more than likely I get screwed. This is the state of Florida which has dry humped me more than a few times. What’s a few more? It does point out how little she needs the financial help for anything other than to punish me. If she needed it she would be worried about a drop instead of cackling gleefully. But I really am too tired to care past the elevated blood pressure she caused me hours ago. Same old.

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Please forgive me if today’s article is revoltingly uninspiring. I am going on auto pilot here. Yet I know that as good as I am even when I’m bad, you have come to expect perfection. So my apologies. This will give you the excuse you needed to hate me and say hurtful things and cause me to curl up in a fetal position and whimper. I hope you’re happy. As I said in a previous article, it is far better to have a slightly dangerous item in your survival preps than no item at all. Far better a sickly, cancerous, bloated bird in hand than two healthy ones in the bush. Money being saved for perfection equals zero when the balloon goes up. Less than perfection when that happens turns it to gold. I even admitted that it was far better to have the Russian bolt gun and its ammo than the far superior Lee-Enfield which cost twice as much. Do you know how hard it was to write that? Comparing the Mosin-Nagant to the Lee-Enfield is like comparing an eunuch to John Holmes ( did I remember that right? The porn star unnaturally endowed-easy, ladies!-that died of AIDS awhile back ). The one glaring fault of the Czar’s gun which I cannot forgive is the lack of a bleed valve to protect the shooter from a ruptured case. But it had to be said. If you are insanely dirt poor, so broke you can’t pay attention, making eighty grand a year between two incomes but unable to keep up with your spouses insane consumer lifestyle, then you have no choice but to make the Russian gun your main battle rifle. Not because it costs half the amount of a Brit or Kraut rifle as I originally spouted off, but because it will only cost a third! Third the price is really friggin nice.

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I might have been off slightly, but I couldn’t find a cheaper ammo price than The Sportsmen’s Guide. I looked on the Internet for a few minutes and couldn’t find a better buy. Of course, the power went off in half the town and even though it came back on in time for lunch our broadband connection is still down. But I think after checking Alamo Ammo and Cheaper Than Dirt, it is safe to call Sportsmen’s the winner. You might have to buy 440 rounds of 7.62x54 to get the twenty cents a round price, but consider that this is only slightly more expensive than a hundred rounds of 303B. No, it isn’t a perfect comparison since the Brit is reloadable and the Russian is not. But I can’t imagine you can reload cheaper than twenty cents a round ( forgive me if I’m off here but I seem to recall powder being almost twenty cents a round for reloading-please correct me if needed ). But seeing as how it would be suicide to have too much less than 500 rounds of ammo for the end of the world, this is a good place to start comparing as a bare minimum. Reloads would be the next step up the prepping ladder. For now, what’s the minimum. 400rounds should do nicely.

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I couldn’t find case 303, so you are stuck with the low being 75 cents a round, in boxes of twenty. The rifles themselves are $90 for the Russian, $150 for the British. The ammo is $80 and $300. $170 versus $450 total. Almost one third for the cheaper. At a thousand rounds, it is $290 versus $900- less than a third the price. If you can’t afford a $200 arsenal, well, you frankly deserve to end up in the stew pot.

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17 comments:

The Ferret said...

Go with the brit. weapopn,much better made worth the cost.Keep your head up child surport is only tell they are 18,and who knows if SHTF maybe the ex will be first in the pot ;) or that is what I always tell myself about my ex's.

theotherryan said...

Sorry to hear about your current wife problems, at least if you are. I have a hard time seeing how your child support would not go down at least some with one kid aging out of it. We all have bad days and go on auto pilot. Other than that.

The great thing about getting a Tzar rifle and 2-3 of those 440rd Spam Cans (check aimsurplus or JG sales for good prices) is that they are, at least to me disposable. At that price almost everybody could have one. They could grease one up, seal it up in a mylar bag and toss it into a tube out (with the ammo in a bucket or whatever) near their favorite camping spot. Hide one in the rafters of your Mom's house, never know when you might need it. Keep one in the trunk, it would cost more to replace a broken window than the rifle if you get broken into.

I do not own a Mosin Nagant but maybe I will some day. At their price I can see deciding to pick up a couple with good expansive cleaning kits, stripper clips and ammo to stash here or there. I could do that for $500 and it would probably be more useful than another Glock or a half ounce of gold. Definitely something to think about.

CaNative said...

I just spent $225 on a .22 bolt gun, store ppl gave me shit when buying it, gave me more shit picking it up, they DON'T WANT to sell people guns. So why a .22? I'm hoping I didn't choose wrong if it's the last gun I can ever get. And I can go nomadic and carry 500 rounds of ammo much easier than 500 rounds of .303. I have to go sight it in, I have to conserve .22 like people used to conserve centerfire match, life in the Depression is fun!

I got some .22 shorts, CCI puts the velocity (probably out of a standard barrel length like 18 or 20 inches) on the box, so I see a figure of 700-odd feet per second on there. Since that's subsonic, this can make a very quiet pest elimination tool. They're solid nose, so I want to make up a jig to drill 'em to make 'em hollowpoints.

It's sad that you lost your cats. One thing about this Depression though, there seems to be no shortage of cats and dogs, people are dumping 'em like crazy. A friend of mine keeps having dogs given to him, if he were of any of a few certain cultures, he'd never have to buy meat again. That's when the Depression will be bad, when the cats and dogs get scarce.

I know you don't print comments any more. The whole Internet is on a course of constant squeeze-down. No one believes me on this because it is in conflict with the Myth Of Progress, but it's true. High speed these days is like dial-up a decade ago, and I'd need a T1 line to sell on ebay like I did back then. Email's maybe 75% reliable, it was darned near 100% for a while there. Pages are censoring like crazy, ordering online is getting more difficult, it's ALL squeezing down, in "cyberspace" (remember that term?) as well as on Main Street and the corner greasy spoon.

Your work is VERY good. A ton of goodness and to pick one thing out, I find your bicycle experiences interesting. I know you didn't grow up a tinkerer like I did, but it may save ya some to learn. Look up Sheldon Brown, sadly he's departed this earthly bike lane, but his site and info lives on, at least for now. Glom it all up, he's basically the friendliest bike-repair coach EVAR. As things get worse here I may have to declare my 250cc motorcycle an Evil Expensive Blood-Sucking Tool Of The Corpo-Cracy, and go to bicycles. In that case, I'll stockpile parts and spares and tools like crazy. I only wish that when I was going down in flames, I'd blown my last credit-card hurrah at the Barnett Bicycle Institute learning to be a book-learned bike mech. But you can learn the stuff on your own.

vlad said...

http://www.icehouse.net/fgrig/gun/REDDOT.TXT
excerpts
"The velocities obtained with 13 grs. of Red Dot appear mild, but "The Load" is no pipsqueak! In a case like the .308 or .30-'06, you get (from a 24" sporter barrel) about 1450 f.p.s. with a 200 gr. cast bullet, 1500 with a 170-gr., or 1600 with a 150-gr. cast load. "The Load" is fully comparable to "yesterday's deer rifle", the .32-40, and provides good expansion of cheap, soft alloys (10-13 BHN) at woods ranges. Jacketed bullet velocities
with "The Load" are about 120-150 f.p.s. less than a lubricated lead bullet of the same weight. "
and " Wheelweights also work well, as do soft "Scheutzen" alloys such as 1:25 tin/lead. in bores of 8 mm or larger. "The Load" drives soft-cast .30-cal. to 8 mm bullets fast enough to get expansion, but
without fragmenting. These out-penetrate factory .30-30
softpoints, and kill medium game up to 150 lbs. well at short ranges up to 100 yards, when placed accurately. In medium and large bores like the .375 H&H or .45-70, "The Load" gives typical black powder ballistics for the bore. A 255-265 gr. cast bullet in the .375 H&H approximates the .38-55 at 1330 f.p.s. Soft 300-
405-gr. cast bullets are pushed at 1300-1350 f.p.s. from a 22" barrel .45-70, sporter are very effective on deer at woods ranges. Cast bullets over .35 cal. do not have to expand appreciably to work well on game if blunt and heavy for their caliber. "


WAG at cost of 45-70 cast reloads
components per Midwayusa mar 18 09
IMR4064..1 lb...21.49...129 54 gr...17 c
Red Dot..1 lb .15.79....538 13 gr....3 c
CCI 200 LR primers 1k....27.99.....2.8 c

Buffalo Arms cast bullets
.458 405 FN.....26.99 for 50....54 c
wheelweights
25 cents per lb....17 400 gr/ lb .. 2 c

Buffalo reload
54c bullet
17c powder
3c primer
-----------------------------------
74 cents
...wheelweight reloads........
2c bullet ..,.400 gr.....
3c powder..13 gr red dot...
3c primer....CCI 200.....
--------------------------------
8 cents

EMJ said...

Jimmy,

I was sorry to hear that number 4 left the first time, then I was sorry to hear she came back. This time some congratulations is in order.

Sorry about the cats though, I hope the vermin don't move in. I left two cats behind when I split with my wife. Then I dragged home a stray that was hanging out at the cabin which I delivered to her house so now she has three.

More food for you.

vlad said...

I wonder why noone has announced that they used their drill press to bore a gas relief hole in the receiver of his Mosin.

Anonymous said...

Jim,
child support doesn't always stop at 18, if your child goes on to college.

canative,
no use drilling out the nose on a bullet going 700 fps, it ain't going to expand anyway!

if anybody plans to take any rifle and go "walkabout" he must get set on ONE load. you know almost every load will have a different point of aim because of the different point of impact of the different loads and you can't re-sight your rifle every time you cross paths with a different "game", one load should fit all.

if your .22 is sighted in with a supersonic round such as a cci mini-mag and you load some subsonic loading such as CB longs your point of impact will be so far off as to be useless.
even using hi speed 40gr. loads from different makers will have a different point of impact.
so like I said ONE LOAD FITS ALL! pick out ONE load that shoots well in YOUR .22 and stick with em!

if you are sitting at a bench and just want to see what different loads will do, and take the time to re-zero your rifle between loads, thats fine but NOT in the field when you don't have the time. one load fits all.

jpf

tjbbpgobIII said...

I was checking the new super Midway catalog yesterday looking for boolits n brass for my 8mm bolt gun and the brass is almost a dollar a round same with the boolits.

Anonymous said...

Bison,
You've entertained me for months but driven me crazy because, while so familiar, I couldn't identify you until now. You're Don Quixote, having substituted wives for windmills. Still entertaining as hell, whether laughter is directed with or at you.

Anonymous said...

Not sure how accurate this child support calculator is:

http://www.alllaw.com/calculators/Childsupport/Florida/

I tried it with 1 and 2 children with the same income and the support amount went down so maybe? You did say Florida, right?

-dutch

Speedgene said...

Jim, When you are ready for a cat or two my daughter in Elko has 14 rescued cats to pick from. Also barn cats that could live under the Bison Compound and keep the mice down.
I got some AK47's so I can wait until I can get a .303. Your wisdom is a big help for me.

Anonymous said...

I just have to say that I love you sarcasm!!

CaNative said...

Hm, Jim's posting comments, cool.

Yeah, different loads will have different points of impact, the "default" load will be some CCI Mini-Mags that are just some hot'n'spicy .22s. I have of that, some .22 shorts that are the slow ones, the POI will be much different for those. And I know the difficulties of zeroing in the field when you're trying not to let your prey know etc.

It's getting down to getting ANY load at all, if it's .22 I glom it up. I know, there still stuff out there but I don't use banks, credit cards, not anything with any paper trail. And as the Depression gets worse as mentioned the motorcycle may have to go in favor of a stable of bicycles and parts, there isn't a DAMN thing on a bicycle I can't fix, and no license, no insurance, no paper trail. All I buy is cash, face to face.

This winter of hunkering down, NO income, has made me even more Doomy and paranoid, I'm so proud of myself, I want to be like Jim when I grow up.

Klaus said...

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles. Hey! Maybe #2 has developed a sense of humor in the meantime...as in, ""Handmaiden of Satan" - what a CHARACTER my ex is!"

We're still behind you, Jim. If things get too grim, let us know and we'll send you envelopes full of cash - let #2 try to catch you with that!

Fellow Minions! Formez vos Batallions! (spelling?)

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Anonymous said...

I have noticed no appreciable difference in impact with high speed vs. standard velocity .22LR in longish (24") barrels. For chuck-sized game I love the Remington Subsonic hollow-points, and they're QUIET, too. BTW-a good scope (4X) is a MUST.
A .22 is not a firearm, IMHO; it is furniture, like a bed or chair--every home should have one.

Anonymous said...

I have noticed no appreciable difference in impact with high speed vs. standard velocity .22LR in longish (24") barrels. For chuck-sized game I love the Remington Subsonic hollow-points, and they're QUIET, too. BTW-a good scope (4X) is a MUST.
A .22 is not a firearm, IMHO; it is furniture, like a bed or chair--every home should have one.
Buy secondhand--nothing like an "illiterate" gun with no paperwork.