COOKING WITH GASOLINE
Usually it’s pretty hard to find new and exciting Happy Financial News. It is just the same old crap everyday. The bankers whore’s such as National
Pravda
Radio keep churning out the lies, damn lies and statistics. “On news today that the jobless rate increase was less than expected the Dow went up fifty points”. Look, boys and girls, instead of losing a half a million jobs last month we only lost fifty thousand!! Weee! Remember that pesky little detail where if we don’t create two hundred thousand jobs a month we don’t even keep up with population increase? How many people are actually using their cranium for something other than a hat rack? Anyway, now that I’ve said my weekly snide remark about the liberal ass pumping pukes at
NPR
we can get back to business. Elko county’s unemployment rate went from 6.8% three months ago to 8% currently. The last all time high was 8.5, and that was with the mines going bust. The mines are doing splendidly right now and gold is holding at the eleven hundred mark, and we are still seeing unemployment going up at a brisk clip. Green shoots my liver spotted pasty white dimpled ass.
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This article is not about using a duel fuel stove, the Coleman job where you can use
Coleman
fuel or unleaded gasoline. I have one, just in case, but they are a bit on the pricey side and I’ve seen mixed reviews on them. And no, I haven’t tried mine out. If I ever find abandoned gas to use it, fine. If it doesn’t work, who cares? It is for a Black Swan event like a pandemic, where people would actually die off and leave supplies. I give the odds of it happening at less than one percent. I bought the thing for
Y2K
, stored it and forgot it ( I had planned on using it with a gallon of Coleman fuel, which I still have, and that goes to show you how far my time scale has broadened for after the
Apocalypse 
). It is a “just in case” item, not something I’m staking my life on. Today, let’s talk about a generator and a microwave for post-collapse cooking. Yes, I know I’m always blowing raspberries at the ownership of generators. What blows my mind is people think they need them for air conditioners, freezers, etc., rather than using them sparingly. So, I am only recommending a generator with you keeping two things in mind. First, this is a luxury like silver. It is nice to have but not necessary. Second, this is not to waste. It isn’t keeping the sirloin frozen, twenty lights on and the X-Box playing. It is to keep an easy modern way of cooking going as long as possible.
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It won’t take long to go back to cooking with wood. Even a huge
propane
tank will only last so long. Wood won’t either, so no matter how you work things you need those solar cookers and
thermoses.
Even with a generator you will need to supplement as much as possible with the sun and slow cooking. The generator is a transition method only. It is meant to ease you into post-petroleum
cooking
. If you lease a hundred gallon propane tank for fifty bucks a year, plus the fifty dollar set up fee, you’ve spent four hundred bucks. With a generator and gasoline, you spend two hundred. You are a bit more restricted with the generator, only being able to run it once a day. If finances are tight and you feel you need this cooking method, go with the generator. If you already have the propane, I wouldn’t bother ( as long as you have it full- I would switch back over to small tanks and leave the big one topped off-but that is just me being paranoid ). Again, this isn’t right for everyone. If you have another cooking method, wonderful. But if you feel that cooking fuel is a big hole in your preps, this might work for you.
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You should be able to find a cheap generator for about a hundred bucks. You need enough watts that when your small 800 watt microwave kicks on you have enough to handle the surge. But you also need to beware of its fuel use. I would try for a ten hour per gallon run time if possible, but if you find one rated at seven that should still blow up your
skirt
. Of course, I believe that is running at half load so my
math
here is laboratory best case and should be taken with a grain of salt. Let’s say you got a
1500 watt
unit for $100 that runs seven hours on a gallon of gas. If 700 watts is half power, then an 800 watt microwave should be pretty close to the seven hour run time. You need two gallons a month running thirty minutes a day ( I said you needed to supplement with a thermos and a solar cooker/water pre-heater ). So you need five, five gallon gas cans and the fuel and stabilizer for that. That might run you a bit over two hundred, but close enough for government work.
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Those cheapo made in China generators are pretty much crap. I would be surprised if they lasted much over five hundred to a thousand hours. But you are only running it at less than half that pessimistic amount. Your generator should outlast your
fuel supply
. Again, this is a luxury unless you live in a cloudy, barren land like at the top of the Andes. Which, if you did, I can’t imagine you reading this. But most of us believe we are entitled to such things. As long as you realize the limitations of a cheap generator and a limited fuel supply.
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10 comments:
Someone else write that article?really weird!Ok i own a generator,but you?The solar cooker and burning wood part was ok.Much firewood there in elko?how much a cord?RW
I bought a Coleman duel fuel stove years ago. I only use it once a year for deer hunting. I don't know if it is a "lemon", it seems to run fine but very often it makes a loud pop and just goes out, but requires constant attention and relighting.
Not nearly as good as the older
ones I used to pick up at flea markets for $15.
I think propane will be the ideal cooking fuel post-collapse. no smoke, no noise. The upright 100 lb tanks are the best. They are exchangeable at fill centers and can be transported in the back of a pick-up truck. Heavy, but do-able(if that's a word).
Nice posts lately Jim. Back on your A game.
Stop right there! I didn't say I owned a generator, I don't. Well, actually I have a Honda 300 but I have no idea if it works as it was a freebee. Still just gathering dust. The article was just an idea, not a description of Bison Compound Life. I don't much care for the idea of generators, but as described it might have a place at the homestead. I'm spreading the wisdom, not renouncing the frugal life.
I'm glad you mentioned the MSM talking up the economy (paragraph one). I was starting to think I was the only person who gets irritated when I hear things like; "As the economy claws itself out of the recession...". That was AP Radio News, on the Armed Forces Network, in Germany.
I simply can't believe that most Americans don't realise that they're being misled.
Hmm... I'd be careful cooking with gasoline do to fumes. I'd also look into venting/fume issues before trying to store much gas around the home-front.
Good post Mr. Bison!
Creekmore has an article on how to make a homemade "generator". Get a small gasoline powered engine like from a lawn mower hook a car alternator to it as well as the appropriate voltage regluator and use it to charge your batteries or use an inverter to run your appliances.
I think Jim's main purpose of the article is alternatives. When the SHTF and you don't have a solar panel to charge your batteries a generator can certainly be another avenue to pursue. Trouble with a generator is noise. It sure can draw attention to your place. I kind of wonder if you could dig a hole and put it in there (of course you leave the top open) so that maybe the ground will absorb some of the noise. You still have the sound coming from the exhaust but if you could rig up a better muffler it might help.
I got a kit for my dad's generator so it can use gasoline, propane, and natural gas;
http://www.propane-generators.com/
don't you miss (randall) alias oldsubotai. yeah i figured it out. no one argues and if they touch a ouchy they just don't make the post.
where are all the vlads and otherryans, and sextons. You quit posting anybody besides friggin anonymous.
mahtomedi still comments but the weather in minnesota will improve soon and maybe his mommy will let him outside to play.
Don't you miss a good friggin arguement? No more childish comments on your hair. Where are the loyal minions?
by the way, limited use of generator was discussed back in december and was suggested by a reader.
Are you having somekind of breakdown?
A microwave doesn't have a "surge" current requirement. Only things with electric motors, especially ones under heavy load when developing starting torque, (EG: A/C unit) need a surge capacity.
We camp with a small 1000 watt generator and use the microwave for a lot of things. I've found that unscrewing the lightbulb in the microwave allows the generator to kick down off of top speed during cooking, so those few extra watts must matter somehow.
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