Tuesday, March 02, 2010

earthquake food

EARTHQUAKE FOOD


Before we start today, thank you everyone for the links and book suggestions. I read the thread over at the zombie site about yours truly and how everyone but one was afraid of crapping in a bucket ( the $8 bag of two cubic feet of sawdust from Wal-Mart lasted me a year and a half, with two people using it for a year- that’s fifty cents a month for sewage ). Actually, they were afraid a potential mate would be scared off, so I guess that is a great litmus test for an Apocalypse Wife. I put “The Human Zoo” in my Amazon wish list. And read the article on the current Russian slow collapse. I’m sure there were a few more, I’m just saying thank you, and please keep it up. My e-mail response is worse than ever. I apologize if I didn’t get back with you. Again, I would like to thank everyone who helped with the three year collection of Bison ( or offered to help ). The end product didn’t go as I originally planned, but it was needed and appreciated. Enough sucking up, let’s get back to insulting somebody.

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Personally, I think it is sick and wrong that the media and corporations and government benefit off the suffering of those folks in a natural disaster. I feel left out. I too wish to trivialize the tragedy by exploiting it. So, today’s article is Earthquake Food. Two days after the quake and people are looting for food? Crap on a cracker, does no one have an emergency food stash anymore? I don’t care if you are poor, if you can buy groceries everyday you can put some to the side. Remember the best line in the book “One Second After”? If we had just put aside a bag of rice. Think about how idiotic you are going to feel when disaster hits and you don’t even have a $15 bag of rice. Even an unwashed, toothless, lice ridden crack whore can afford $15. Hell, a bag of flour is under ten bucks. You can’t find a ten spot every few paydays and stockpile an emergency food stash? Of course, this is assuming you don’t have your grain, bean and grinder stash. Which, granted, may seem extreme and only worthy of a “collapse is immanent” strategy. I would argue that in the long run this is actually cheaper since the life span is much longer, but then again does white flour or rice really ever go bad? The years of grain might be above your stress level, but everyone should have a month or three of food stashed even if they don’t think anything other than disasters will occur. And it doesn’t have to be anything other than a few bags of flour or rice because there will almost always be something else to supplement that. You don’t have to worry about being able to afford MRE’s or freeze dried food.

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But putting that aside, you should also have a shorter term food stash that is simpler to cook. Again, I’m trying to avoid expensive food and stay with the cheaper types. But it should be more nourishing than simple rice or flour because you are going to be busy digging in rubble, fighting off zombie bikers and escaping from Blackwater gun confiscation teams. So, long term, a month or three, you want cheap and filling. Short term, a week or two, you want filling and more protein for harder work. I would recommend Minute Rice and pre-cooked canned beans. I know you can make your own minute rice. My eastern correspondent, part of the Ladies Auxiliary Loyal Minions ( or, as they affectionately refer to themselves, LAMBS ), had told me how to make your own minute rice. I believe it is just cooked rice put in your food dryer. I might be forgetting something. I hate buying the stuff as it is over twice the price as regular rice, but it sure is nice to bring half the water to a boil and needing no more heat. In an emergency when you only have a limited amount of propane or dry wood, this is going to make a huge difference. The beans, heated, with the rice give a complete protein and plenty of calories. It is more expensive to store buy the prepared items but it translates to almost no fuel required. Right now, prepping, you can afford to pay twice as much for two weeks of food. Instead of $21 you spend $42. Which is more expensive than the propane needed to cook it longer. But since you only store so much fuel, it will last three times longer, if not more, so that you have more flexibility. Plus, when all the added stress is there, it will be a pleasant surprise to have dinner so quick and easy. Minute Rice is also easier to clean up and I think it tastes better. All big pluses as you camp around your flattened McMansion and twisted SUV.

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If Baby Jesus is trying to give us a little hint after Haiti and Chile ( I call it “chili”, like the food. I hate it when bleach white newscasters try to roll the word as if they were natives. Chillllaaaa. I might be pronouncing it wrong, but I don’t feel like a huge dweeb doing it ) that perhaps the New Madrid fault line is next, I would feel compelled to stock up on a few big boxes of Minute Rice and a case of black beans. It surely can’t hurt at all. Don’t forget a bottle or two of propane. Water. And a bag of sawdust.

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23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good post. It is amazing how many people must eat out everyday or shop at the store daily. Who can't make it 48 hours before the need to loot?

In addition, I believe in One Second After it only took 90 days before people started killing eachother for food. 90 DAYS! Really!?!

CaNative said...

Oh come on people shitting in a bucket is fine, in fact it's a hell of a lot more civilized than the water-based systems most Americans are utterly dependent on.

I don't even use sawdust, that's effete. Just good old clean earth, basically look around for something like potting soil if your area yields anything like that, natural loams like that are around here, otherwise yeah, sawdust, wood chips, the first version of this I heard of used nice fragrant ceder chips, available as bedding for your hamster gerbil etc start with that if you feel like it, just to get used to the concept.

Peoples' inability to handle their own shit is going to be our downfall in a fast crash. It'll be problematical in a slow crash too.

Mousse said...

"I would feel compelled to stock up on a few big boxes of Minute Rice and a case of black beans. "

Black beans, an excellent gourmet choice. Minute Rice, make sure to put the cardboard box in a bigger zip-loc style bag or maybe even a bucket with a lid. Bugs can chew through cardboard. Rice-A-Roni has enough odd little chunks in it without weevil bits too.

Jim is right, you can do the basic preps for cheap, there's no excuse at all for not having extras of the basics. Tuna, peanut butter, some well-washed soda bottles filled with water, cheap, easy to maintain, and better than mentally kicking yourself as you starve or suffer from dehydration.

TMM said...

2 days seems an awful short time for people to already be fighting over food... but then, we often say "don't you have at least 2 days food in your kitchen?" ... which is a normal response.

HOWEVER, we need to remember that many many homes were flattened and the food they had in their home (be it 2 days or 2 years worth) isn't accesable.

Thus we need to think of the old adage "don't put all your eggs in one basket"... we need to consider what would happen if we had all our food storage in one place and something kept us from getting to it...like 300 tons of concrete rubble.

Anonymous said...

James,

"does flour and rice really go bad"


That's been my big problem lately. It seems everyone has an opinion on shelf life. Hell even my rubbing alcohol is good for two years. Then what? So I have decided to just stock up, in two or three years check the quality then act accordingly. Any good sites to recommended for this?

peace

Mahtomedi said...

Good advice today. Minute Rice it will be.

If one is merely trying to feed themselves they are not 'looters'. The goddamn mainstream media conditions our minds with such labels. If there are 'looters' about then they can do any damn thing they please.

Ya, I can see Blackwater becoming a sort of contractor stasi here in the states one day. They'll know one thing when they're done with me: they bid the job too low.

Anonymous said...

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redneckott said...

I will loot just or the hell of it come high water.

-Humongous said...

TMM-

Good point about those suckers not being able to get to their food stores, assuming they had them. I don't know what the norm is over there, but I'm guessing they didn't have much set aside. It's a pretty poor place(Haiti), so I'm thinking they don't have too vast a pantry of store-bought stuff.

Anonymous said...

I never found sawdust at Walmart but if you would go to a custom millwork shop, I bet you could get a bunch for free. I did find 25 pounds of kitty litter for about $2.50 and you could use that instead.

Great post. More of this type would be most appreciated.

Lambkins said...

Jim, here is a little more info on dehydrating and rehydrating your cooked rice. Remember, you do not need a fancy dehydrator, you can use your pickup or maybe even the bread van, those heat up well in the summer.

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=32951

Mechanic in Illinois said...

The people that are looting after 2days are the ones on food stamps and other entitlements. They depend on the government for everything. They can't think,because if they could they would have stored food. It's a pathetic situation out there.

Karl9x said...

The rice I have stored in an unsealed bucket in it's original 20 pound bag from three years ago still tastes great. I do live farther up north, so pests are less of a problem here. For earthquake food store something that requires little cooking such as minute rice, couscous, dried veggies, dried fruit, canned goods and MREs.

Make sure it is in a place that will not be covered by a collapsed structure after an emergency, perhaps a buried PVC pipe capped at both ends. Include any tools needed to open the food and cook it, make sure to plan for lack of water as well.

Michael said...

White flour can can go bad pretty quick if it gets moisture or weevils in it! Like Mousse said, keep things sealed up good.

Anonymous said...

It drives me nuts when they call it looting. They are surviving, heck any video game teaches you grab what's around in your environment. "Loot" the bodies, they won't be needing it. Now, if it's just a power outage or something, then your just a plain old robber. I'm talking massive disruption; Also, basically taking survival type items, not color TVs.

labrador said...

Im from ViƱa del mar (Chile of course) and im currently dealing with the earthquake consecuences.

The looting actually began barely 2 hours after the earthquake hit, mostly because the people in my country already know what an earthquake feels like (we have like 1 or 2 every year grade 6 or 7 richter) but this one was bigger than 8, covered the most populated area in Chile, it lasted 7 minutes (like double the time of a normal big earthquake) and most important of all there was a huge tsunami in the main affected areas (which is way worse than the earthquake itself).

People know already here than after a big one its gonna take some time for things to get normal and also you have to differentiate the opportunist scavenger (looting tvs, electronics and luxury items) from the people looting water, food and diapers to help their family and dear ones.

So far canned tuna, bread, instant noodles and instant mashed potatoes and fruit helped a lot during the first days.

If you got any questions feel free to ask, ive learned a lot during these days.

Anonymous said...

Jim,

I've discussed this with a couple of friends with parents from the "Old Country"

I think what you see in Chile is an ethnic tradition causing problems.

In countries like Italy, Chile, others, the tradition is not to stock much food at home, but to go to the market and get what ever is "Fresh" every other day or so.

Makes for good quality meals, but when the SHTF, you are fucked.

Bellen said...

Good post. After listening to the news that stated Hawaiians were storming the grocery stores because they typically only had 6 meals worth of food at home, hubby & I discussed how long we could eat on our food stores - somewhere between 6-8 weeks eating normally, 4-5 months if we go the beans and rice way. We have plenty of water stored and 3 ways to cook if the electricity goes out - the solar oven we use about 3 times a week now.

In searching for more preparedness sites I found "grandpappy.info". He states that between 1/09 and 1/10 his list of foods typically stored went up in price 6%. BUT between 1/10 and 3/10 the prices rose 1.6%. Seems to me, we all need to use a portion of our food budget for stored foods starting right now.

Also, in response to Anonymous 12:15's question of how long is food good for - Buy what you eat, eat what you store is the answer. Open a jar of peanut butter, buy one to replace and put it in the back of your storage, same for that 5# bag of flour, which you have put in a zip lock bag with a bay leaf to prevent insect invasion. If necessary, write the date of purchase on the top/side of the can/box of food.

James m Dakin said...

Sorry-let me clarify. It is pine shavings, not sawdust. Get it in the pet department. Tell them you want something for your gerbel to crap on.

Anonymous said...

Down here, I think water will be fought over sooner than food. Its way less commonly found in natural form down here. So water storage is as, if not more important. Have one of those Water Bobs, the bathtub liner that stores 100 gallons of drinking water in one fell swoop. I think its worth the price - I doubt if using your tub will be necessary if things get that bad.

Anonymous said...

Great Bison Dude ! Your article is timely. I have been sleeping with a whore for 10 years. For 10 years (tears?) I worked to build a nice profitable business while the twat sat on her ass and bitched that I was an idiot, wrong, stupid, insensitive, lazy etc. 10 years of verbal and physical abuse. I kept working, hoping someday the twat would realize what a good person I was. Good fucking luck with that! Tonight something snapped, I took 100 bucks and went to a massage parlor. I emerged feeling much better :-) This is the first time I ever cheated on my wife and I feel great. I am going to lose the twat and see how she does surviving on her own without a daddy. I hope the twat dies from antibiotic resistant pneumonia from sleeping under a bridge.

Anonymous said...

It is good to have a supply of 'instant' foods.
Rice, beans, dry milk, potatoes, whatever. And of course enough water to be able to 'cook' the stuff.
Right now we have enough for several months, am still adding to it, as well as dry pet foods too.
AnnaMouse

Nick said...

Most of my family thought I was nuts when I started prepping, since nobody else they know has a year's worth of food on hand "just in case." But I hope what's been going on in Haiti and Chile after their earthquakes is going to be a wakeup call for a lot of sheeple. Keep prepping, keep stocking up, but be sure to hide what you have and keep your mouth shut about it.