Monday, May 31, 2010

security blankets

SECURITY BLANKETS


What follows in the middle of this article was my previous attempt to visualize how the future economy will be both similar and different from Europe after the end of the Roman Empire. I wrote it a week or two ago but didn’t publish it as I was unhappy with my thought process. It didn’t “mesh”. Something was wrong with it. I put it on the back burner of my sub-consciousness until the answer presented itself. Since long hot showers are no longer possible, now my best Eureka moments are while riding my bicycle when cold enough to increase circulation more ( eight months out of the year at least in the morning ). My whole thinking on firearms displacing the feudal structure was wrong. Read the original article, then we can pick up on this train of thought.

FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY

Last weeks Druid Dude Report (http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/ ) was as good as usual. One of my favorite writers even if he is a hopeless Slow Decliner. I can appreciate authors of different persuasions such as the extreme commie Kunstler (http://kunstler.com/blog/ ) who not only would kiss the tan off Obammies ass but has committed the unpardonable sin of being a damn Yankee. Yet he is so funny with such a caustic wit that one simply must love him. Anyway, our favorite Druid Dude pointed out the reasoning behind the economic structure of medieval Europe which was a response in part to the collapse of the Roman currency debacle ( primarily it was due to a lack of surplus energy that the Romans had- Europe inherited a mess of overpopulation, hyperinflation, soil degradation, etc. and the only way to compensate for a lack of trade was decentralization and land wealth ). As went dark ages Europe so will go Post Oil Age America.

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To visualize our near future, you can’t look at resource rich colonial or pre-Depression America or post-Enlightenment Europe as parasite on colonies. Those times were ones of riches and wealth due to mining the wealth of vast stretches of land. As DD pointed out, the average peasant usually never saw a coin, certainly never on a daily basis. Precious metals were scarce and were a small part of the economy ( one wonders how much gold and silver was carried out of Roman Europe in the last days in a desperate last attempt to buy food, or later carried out as plunder, for such a shortage to remain that there couldn’t be a viable medium of exchange ). Land was the basis of all wealth and obligations based on that land formed the economy. Now, land has always formed the basis of wealth, but DD explains these things much better than me as far as the three tiers of the economy and the medieval devolution to using just the basic one. The basics are that not only did trade collapse causing decentralization, its lack made the economy oversimplified. In the future, we will once again reach that level. Yet it would be silly to think we will revisit Maid Marian and the Merry Men despite the favorite fantasy world of SM Sterling. There most certainly won’t be kings and queens and armored knights and what not. So how will our feudal future look?

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I can’t see us ever devolving past a blackpowder and flintlock existence on a large basis. It might not even sink below breech loading blackpowder and primer ( although I believe that would be contingent on mercury availability- remember, regardless of knowledge, without the support infrastructure nothing above a cottage industry level will be made and mercury based primers are very cottage industry ). We certainly have enough smelted metal aboveground to be able to “mine” ores for many lifetimes if extreme stupidity isn’t involved. I think the bottleneck will be nitrates since only so much fertilizer can be taken from food production. The existence of firearms negates the feudal structure because massed fire from common soldiers trumps single combat and the use of cannon necessitates mobility rather than fortifications which requires armies of masses of conscripts, and on and on. In other words, chemical energy weapons do not allow what we think of traditional feudal structures. But that doesn’t mean you won’t be living in a dictatorship. It just means there won’t be a liege lord that pledges his life to the king.

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The basic common denominator is that there will be no to little trade and that almost no one will travel. Food production will be 90+% of the economy. Since precious metals will be rare, yet the only acceptable currency after embedded memories of horrid paper currency inflation will make a multigenerational mark, there will be few merchants and they will only deal in low weight high value items for the rich. Unfortunately, we will have a severe coffee shortage ( which seems like motive enough to me to claw your way up to the top ). I don’t see private land ownership disappearing, but certainly the vast majority of farmers will be sharecroppers. The owners of that land will in turn both pay in kind taxes but also furnish their soldiers in certain circumstances. So, yes, in much we will have a return to feudal structures. Medieval Europe came about naturally in response to shortages of one kind or another. My point is, even though I find it hard to visualize the details, we won’t exactly duplicate the whole kings and serfs type of thing because of firearms. There has to be fixed agriculture for survival and weapons production, but enough mobility to be militarily effective, but with no medium of exchange. The economics will be similar but the culture has to be different with the more widespread use of weapons. Crap, no wonder few try to flesh all that out. I’ll need to work on this a bit more. Feel free to help with suggestions.

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Extreme localization will still happen. The shrinking size of political units will still take place, because of similar conditions with the fall of Rome. Our soil will be depleted, our money totally debased, our far flung infrastructure unsustainable. The scarcity of precious metal will mean the end of almost all trade ( in effect, this historic round of paper currency was sustainable for this long due to it being backed by oil ). We will contract. The depleted soil means no surplus fodder for cavalry, no surplus food for larger armies, nor surplus nitrates for gunpowder production ( I’m not saying it won’t happen, just that it will be at the expense of the general population ). All that is obvious. Where my thinking grew cloudy was when I believed feudal structures were defeated by gunpowder. Middle ages knights were made obsolete by gunpowder ( with a head start from crossbows, but that was possible when trade resumed enough to allow for mercenary armies to form with the latest military hardware ), but the nation state was formed. The only real difference was an expansion of trade allowing growth in government.

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Firearms certainly help the individual oppose tyranny. But they don’t help him defeat it. Gunpowder and metal production can easily be controlled by the state, thus controlling the used of guns themselves. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a dyed in the wool anarchist and always will be. But recognizing the preferred way of organizing our lives is not the same as recognizing the realities that make it impossible. Guns can be controlled by the State. Guns do not make you free. The government decides how free you will be, with or without guns. Put aside your militia porn fantasies for a moment and ask yourself this. Can you produce your own smokeless powder and primers? I realize my article presumes a blackpowder arms future, but follow me a second as I make my case using three countries as examples in the modern world. Switzerland, America and Russia. Compared to Switzerland, almost all of the US is a totalitarian gun control nightmare. Pistols are highly taxed, but not discouraged in America. This allows the illusion of self protection and allows high crime ( supporting the pretext for our Police State ). Battle rifles are more controlled. This allows little chance for rebellion and the citizens are certainly not free ( the financially well off can afford battle weapons [ short range carbines such as the SKS are not effective against an industrialized army and thus the only cheap rifle is nearly worthless ] but they are the least likely to use them since they can lose their wealth ). Switzerland makes it simple to rebel effectively with all its young males armed from home. Yet there is little fear from the authorities as there is little central control or abuse. It is far more equal and free than the US. Russia got early firearms and effectively used them against the mostly eastern invaders. In many ways, they paralleled our western expansion ( but going east ). Firearms made it possible to defeat and expand. Yet, Russians never became free. The State decides how much freedom to allow. And that usually, at least over time, follows how much freedom is allowed by external/economic/energy forces. Individual settlers helped defeat the American natives, and did so with military weapons available on the open market. Russian settlers defeated the lower tech invaders with firearms but were more collective in their defense.

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Rebellions can be waged successfully, with or without firearms. The State doesn’t always win. But it usually prevails. Rebelling veterans from the Revolution were crushed by federal forces here. The Indians were crushed using biological and famine weapons ( more so than with guns ). The collective can easily defeat guns. Guns don’t mean a magic shield against the government. And guns don’t mean the end of tyranny. Or tyrannical rule. Just look at modern Africa. Tomorrows feudal society will be armed with firearms. The future won’t mirror the past perfectly because of that. But it should still be close.

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11 comments:

Anonymous said...

You can't predict the future.

Rebellions ? Dude we're going to be lucky if we survive the crash.

You have way too much free time on your hands.

PioneerPreppy said...

While I agree with your evaluation of about how far back society will indeed reset to being around the black powder era of production I must disagree with your "unfree" theory.

American's were very free up until the oppression and control that oil allowed the government. Sure the federal government managed to take control over the cash crop sector but even the civil war is thought of as the first war during the industrial period.

Without oil no government will have the resources to actually control the vast areas of North America. Much like the period leading up to the Pax Romano when out of power elites spent years roaming around the providences gathering armies central control will be impossible.

Europe was small enough to allow a feudal system, Western Russia wasn't and I doubt seriously if any one power will be able to keep the US in check without the freedoms given by the Constitution in place as a binder to hold it together. In place of federal regulations and enforcement. Which is what we have now.

Without oil large scale oppression just isn't possible as the distances allow too much room for free states and communities to form. Also not having oil but having gunpowder leads to a very dangerous situation for tyrants and would be local thugs and actually promotes freedom movements like the American revolution.

A good example of this freedom would be "The Last of the Mohicans" type attitudes.

James m Dakin said...

I was thinking of The Whiskey Rebellion as an early example of Federal suppression of rebellion and the ineffectiveness of individuals being armed. There was a few others whose names escapes me. Expansion west also funneled dissent.

YeOldFurt said...

May I suggest an in-depth investigation of the Thirty Years War. it's causes and results.
YeOldFurt

Anonymous said...

jim the wealth of rome never left the riches of the old world are still where they have always been in the vaults of the vatican.have you ever stoped to think what a 2000 year old corperation that operates in every corner of the world may have hidden away? im not anti catholic just food for thought

Suburban Survivalist said...

What the post-SHTF world will be like depends a lot on what scenario causes the fall; EMP, nuclear, peak oil, pandemic, financial crisis, etc. A lot of variables there. How many and who survive the die off(s) will matter a lot.

Also, just b/c the U.S. falls does not mean the rest of the world will completely fall. Those highly dependent on U.S. trade, yes (Europe, China, Mexico, Canada, parts of South America, etc.), Russia, probably not (if financial/peak oil at least). Russia already had its collapse and lived through it, and they have a lot of energy resources.

Some form of trade, including international, will still exist, albeit vastly slower, more sporadic, and less far reaching. There is always trade and travel, they’ll just be a lot less of it. Diesel lasts for many years and modern train engines are diesel-electric – they will be able to run in a very limited way for awhile (like maybe until steam engines become the rage, again – the U.S. has a lot of coal reserves). If we’re really hard reset, eventually they’ll be enough horses and wagons (modified from light cars, I’ll bet) for travel. With Americans spread out far from family, people will want to get back home – they will travel.

If it’s not a massive nuclear exchange or world-wide EMP scenario, I think modern bullets will still be around, again depending on how big of a die off occurs.

In the scenario you describe, guns would indeed be pretty hard for the State to control. If there is a period of extreme violence following the collapse, the value of firearms will be so ingrained in people that it would be impossible for the State to regulate them away. While Americans in general have an overgrown sense of entitlement, there has also been a sense of democratic (small D) injected into how we view things, again in general. Not many will settle for the modern equivalent of a feudal lord.

With a hard collapse, the military is also very likely to evaporate for some time. What do you think will happen to many of the selective-fire weapons in the military inventory? The ammo? And if bolt action .303 and Mosin Nagants used by the Taliban (and AK-47s) are effective, why not a well aimed bullet from an SKS?

mohave rat said...

Did anybody ever visit the notion that "civilization " is a illusion that survives because of surplus.

The collapse is the collapse of an illusion not a reality. How long did civilization last after the Watt's riot, or Katrina, or hurricane Andrew? bout twenty minutes.

If the Hurricane season blows spilled oil all the way to Tennessee and Oklahoma your gonna see the bible belt get pissed as hell.

The only people who turn the other cheek are people who enjoy a good beating!

Everybody else turns hostile quick. Black powder or pipe wrench, either one will ruin your whole day. I liked your article today Bison Man.

PioneerPreppy said...

Well of course the feds could come down on locals but while they were doing it in one place all the others were a party zone.

It was the same with Russia even after they banned private ownership of guns folks out in the Urals and further East did as they pleased.

Had it not been for oil I bet they still would be.

Michael said...

I don't know, Bison somedays Greer's slow decline and you collapse sound fairly similar.

John said...

Nitrates can be made the old fashioned way. Placing human and animal waste in a trough with an underburden of pot ash. Pour water over the top and catch the precipitate in a trough beneath the trough with the waste. Interestingly, the best potassium nitrate in the world in the 18th and 19th centuries, came from India. Must be the curry!

Klaus said...

"Unfortuneately, we will have a severe coffee shortage (which seems like motive enough for me to claw your way to the top)."

Top barter item! Jim, do you have jojoba out your way? My copy of, "A Field Guide to the Plants of Arizona" says, "Native Americans and pioneers used seeds as food and as a substitute for coffee; their bitter taste improved with roasting."

I wonder what it tastes like? Supposedly it grows till 5000'.