Wednesday, June 09, 2010

depression jobs

DEPRESSION JOBS


Thanks to Brother Creekmore (http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/ ), yet another stolen idea to manipulate, tweak, repackage and molest into what passes for my own article. Listed were ideas to consider as Recession Self-Employment Jobs.

• Mail order or Internet Sales

Craft Sales (can be combined with above)

Freelance Writing

Gunsmithing

Locksmithing

Reloading

• Auto Repair

• Computer Repair

• Knife Making

• Greenhouse / Produce Sales

• Firewood Sales

• Odd Jobs / Handyman

• Welding

• Childcare

You will notice that this list was copied from his article, as I’m getting so lazy I won’t even go through the trouble of condensing or summarizing anymore. Since my one thousand readers will see his link and storm en masse over to his site, and I know he is worried that his five thousand readers aren’t enough and somehow my loyal minions added to this number will solve all his problems, my stealing the list will surely be overlooked. Hopefully he stole the list himself, then we can stimulate the economy by getting a few underemployed lawyers involved and I can give up whatever cash the other parasites in my life don’t steal ( note to humorless lawyers- I was joking, not offering ).

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This is a perfectly respectable list, if we were just worried about a recession. And if we were to believe Obammy, that green shoots are just around the corner, or that the worst we have to worry about is a double dip recession ( this has largely taken over the “green shoots” propaganda as the former was as credible as plastic sheet and duct taping the oxygen out of your room to survive a chemical attack ), or that we are already in a jobless recovery. That is the kind of recovery where everyone is on welfare and Zimbabwe style inflation will at last transport us into a worker utopia first sold to the Ukrainian farmers at the point of Soviet bayonets. Do you really think we are in a recession? Go ask anyone living in Detroit. If you answered, Detroit is the exception, then explain to me how they got the most bailout money outside of the financial sector yet are still transformed into a equatorial African style country? Okay, if your area is actually doing fine for now then, yes, you can play at being in a recession for a little bit longer. But that won’t last too much longer. You need to plan on a Depression business if you want to keep a paycheck coming in a little bit longer, not a Recession business. Nothing on that list will survive into your areas Depression.

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Childcare? Households are going from two incomes to one. Grown children are moving back with their parents, or those on Social Security working and paying a mortgage lose their jobs and then their house they are still paying on. Someone will be home to watch the kids. Welding? Why? The independent farmers and ranchers lose their land, equipment lays around rusting. Hanymen must have a clientele with excess money. Currently that is not a problem as Social Security is generous enough with money to allow the old to pay the young. As oil shoots up in price and becomes unavailable, food prices skyrocket. All the government welfare now goes to food and heating. Family members fix stuff. It might be half-assed, but it is free. Firewood sales only last as long as affordable oil, then the forests are quickly stripped. Greenhouse and produce sales can easily be reproduced by the now unemployed. Remember when oranges used to be a few times a year treat? All fresh winter produce will soon be like that, a luxury. Custom Knives are a luxury that don’t compete with Chinese mass produced crap. Computer repair will only be viable if all electronics from overseas stop shipping. If that becomes the case, you have bigger problems than using a computer. Auto repair is a great business, at first. Then no one can afford to drive.

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Reloading is too easy to do yourself. Locksmithing can be done without or improvised ( a $50 tech house call or a hasp and lock from Home Depot for $10? ). Gunsmithing can be put off, as those armed usual have more than one gun. You will starve waiting for the time guns are life and death items that must be repaired even before groceries are bought. Freelance writing is serving the entertainment needs. Spending on entertainment already well exceeds the level needed for mere escapism now, it will be a cut item from the budget soon. The only thing paying us bloggers now is advertising, and that will get worse. Survivalism is largely entertainment past a very small amount of needed information. Crafts are luxury items for the rich. And mail order sales are not necessities. Plus, the Internet can become heavily taxed and regulated.

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You need to think of what is absolutely critical in a Depression. None of the above apply. I’m not talking about a collapse business. But one that must be used by others regardless of choice while things still hold together. My first guess would be bicycle repair. People are too spread out, living in suburbia. As public services are cut, they will have to have transport to get food and water and medicine. Gas will be too expensive, and the food distribution services will not deliver. Nor will school buses pretty soon, but my guess is that attendance will still be mandatory. As oil imports continue to fall, eventually the area that will be cut from supply ( either through the pricing mechanism or government rationing ) will be personal consumption. Count on it. Insulation and solar heat traps will desperately be needed soon, but my guess is that there is only a small window to make money from it, then it will be do-it-yourself. That should not be a business idea but a way for you to drastically cut costs yourself and thus avoiding the need to earn that money. How about herbs? Come after the collapse, when we all become farmers again, then it will become common knowledge. But through the Depression it should make you money as drugs are replaced. Research contraceptive herbs especially. Those are my ideas of the two rock solid Depression businesses. They take into account oil down and drying up incomes or hyperinflation. Any other ideas?

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15 comments:

Scott B. Williams said...

Agreed that bicycles will become vital transportation in such a situation. I saw it here, if only briefly, in Mississippi, in the aftermath of Katrina, when the area gas stations were all pumped dry, and people who did not have extra gas on hand were faced with walking or pedaling.

Idaho Homesteader said...

Good day to you. Jim, your hair is looking mighty exceptional today.

That list didn't survive the "Recession" (ha ha) up here in North Idaho.

The fall back jobs up here are firewood and huckleberries. Last year the price of red fir/tamarack firewood dropped to $120-$140 from a high of just over $200 the year before. I bought a gallon of huckleberries for $20. Down from $45 the year before.

Child care is a luxury--someone will always do it cheaper.

When times get tough, everyone has the SAME back up plan.

The only way to make it up here is to have MINIMUM overhead and hunker down. Yeah, you can always find work--if you're willing to work CHEAP enough.

When I first moved up here in 1992, I felt lucky to land a very part-time, odd job at $5/hour (and I'm a collage graduate). Idaho was in a recession and there were no jobs. However, land was literally dirt cheap.

I've seen this coming for 20+ years and in all my reading of the 1930's Depression, it seems they survived by--(1) owning free and clear their own piece of land, (2) being able to produce some or most of their own necessities, (3) having NO debt.

By doing this, you can afford to take the minimum wage job. You can afford to work part time (the only jobs available).

I can't stress enough how short time is to get yourself positioned to weather what is to come. By the time your neighbor relizes what is going on--it's too late.

It's not rocket science--get a piece of PAID FOR land, stock pile food/clothes/tools/other necessities, pay off ALL your debt, learn to lower your lifestyle and DO IT as quick as possible (like yesterday).

Personally, I've given up trying to wake other people up. Any day "FIRE" will be yelled and everyone will be making a mad dash to the exit and getting trampled. Unless you make this a priority and focus ALL your time, energy and money on the basics, it's already too late in my opinion. The "hunker down" learning curve is too great when time is this short and most people aren't willing to sacrifice. Why board a life raft while they're still service drinks in the bar?

Anonymous said...

Barbers, Bartenders and Undertakers. Those are all mostly recession proof. For full blown TEOTWAWKI one may need to gravitate to things not exactly 'legal'. I won't mention them here but you can use your imagination.

TMM said...

If things do crash overnight, or very quickly... knowledge is going to be king for a bit. People might be willing to do their own insulating to cut heating costs, but they might need someone to show them how. Should be worth at least a few meals.

If municipal services shut down, people will make their own latrines and dig their own wells, but they will need help and "how to" instruction in the beginning...

If you have the knowledge to build small wind/water turbines for charging batteries (for LED lights) you can seal the inside from inspection and keep some of that knowledge to yourself... gotta make it so they ruin it if they open it though.

Scrap materials... if people are going to make things themselves, they will need material to do it...

my $.02

Michael said...

Yay, bike repair! I'm a hack mechanic, so this one isn't for me. But I'm thinking that someone with a bike trailer or a long bike, like a Kona Ute, could set themselves up with a pretty nice traveling bike repair business.

"Firewood sales only last as long as affordable oil, then the forests are quickly stripped. "

75% of all car are bought on credit. With the credit collapse a lot of folks are out of the car/truck market once their current jalopy dies. Plus, with high gas prices it's going to get expensive to get all that wood out of the woods. And chainsaws cause all sorts of injuries. I think there's a future out there for wood cutters, but it's a small one.

Grumpyunk said...

I suppose you could be a Repo Man, but that's gonna get real dangerous as time goes by.
I have to wonder, Jim, if the shit truly does hit the fan who's gonna repossess all of those homes and farms? I won't be giving my house up because I still owe some on it. Period. And I doubt that I'm the only one who thinks that way. Banks aren't foreclosing on a lot of folks now, if those banks go tits up in an all out crash, who's gonna be brave enough to come out to the house and make ya move? They damn sure will earn their money, but I wouldn't want to take that job on.
This is just something that came to mind as I read this post & not anything I've spent a lot of time on.


As always, your hair is the envy of the known hirsute universe and I'm kinda jealous.

Anonymous said...

What about putting the ex-wife on the street corner while you comb your lush head of hair?

PioneerPreppy said...

Yes wood cutters will still be in demand, with a horse and cart, axe and saw. Forest will be depleted of course but outside of a mile or so I doubt most people will haul it by hand.

Depending on the area beekeeping will come back hardcore for sweetener and medicinal purposes. It is not something your average thrown into the chaos person will willingly take up, nor is it that easy to get started in from nothing without mail order. It will also be very hard to steal once in place if you already have hives.

Suburban Survivalist said...

- Security (hired gun)
- Making booze (distilling)

Anonymous said...

Jim, you're guilty of thinking too far ahead. What will eventually occur is not the same as what is now occurring. And the difference, in the short-term, can be substantial. Eventually, no one will be driving, or buying books, or going to McDonalds. But that is NOT true in the meantime. Yes, maybe now wouldn't be a good time to START an online photo scrapping business, but for the next few years it COULD be a good time to write a how-to book and try to sell it online. Not everyone is unemployed ... yet. There are still people with jobs and money to burn, and so there are still restaurants and coffee shops and resale Web sites doing quite well. That will change ... but will take time. Things haven't gone to s* until they've gone to s* In the meantime, take full advantage of the time we have. It could take longer than we think.

Doc said...

Idaho Homesteader,
You scare the pee out of me.
What do you do with family members who come calling?

Anonymous said...

The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilisation

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Anonymous said...

Bicycle and small engine repair sounds good to me, as will be solar / wind energy systems. The later cobbled up with DIY methods, using hi-tech components purchased before hand. I don't see solar panels being manufactured AFTER SHTF, so buy now if interested in them.

How about experience with the law? I don't think we'll ever fall to Bronze Age technology, and some type of authority will likely survive. Dealing with them and others will still be a requirement, and knowing the principles of laws might be useful knowledge.

How about security? It sometimes takes a thief to catch a thief, and the former jail bird has knowledge of how the trades were done. They know what to look for and possibly how to defeat them, or at least minimize.

James m Dakin said...

Grumpyunk- the Sheriffs Office will send a LEO out to foreclose. I don't think anyone will resist him. Not unless they want a SWAT team there in 20 minutes. Everyone, thanks for the great response.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure I agree with the notion that, say, making knives will not be potentially lucrative, at least not for the reasons given.

You claim that cheap made in China knives will be readily available. Really? Isn't your whole premise that there is very little energy and transportation costs are high? How are these cheap knives going to get here from China? You ignore the fact that international trade will largely collapse in the scenario you outline.

Ditto for evictions with SWAT teams backing them up. If there is no gas, just how is the SWAT team going to arrive in 20 minutes? In any case, in a resource constrained world, it will be very, very difficult to afford a true SWAT team capability - the maintenance training alone is incredibly resource intensive - bluntly what you suggest borders on the physically impossible.