DON’T ASK DON’T TELL
Two weeks ago I finally got around to sending a check off to MCA Sports
http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm
for a chamber insert to turn my beloved Lee-Enfield (
Accurizing & Shooting Lee Enfields
) into a commie carbine shooter. Since the terrain in these parts is all rolling hills outside a few flat parts by water, you don’t necessarily need a whole lot of range. It is nice to have the knock down power but even nicer to be able to cheaply stockpile more rounds. I could have gone with the
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=471502
.32 chamber insert but then I’ve gone from a carbine round to a pistol round. Plus, it is a insert that completely ejects ( take out insert, remove shell, insert new shell, insert into weapon ) rather than the MCA Sports version which is glued in and thus much faster to reload. Alas, it seems that Baby Jesus himself is having a bit of fun at my expense. There he is, sitting around a nice oak table ( evidently being a hangout for deities, there is no Wal-Mart particle board or plastic furniture with few worriers of resource depletion unlike here on Earth where you tend to start running out of easily accessed petroleum after pumping A FRIGGIN TRILLION BARRELS YOU SILLY TWATS ), probably with Oden (
Classic Christianity: A Systematic Theology
) since he’s a pretty cool guy and not neurotic like a lot of other gods, and giggling like little Japanese school girls ( sorry, I tend to visualize the Japanese school girls a bit more prone to humor unlike our own version who are super sized and pretty compulsive about losing a hundred pounds and/or meeting Justin Timberlake ) over how he tends to act like my buddy as we chug a few Pabst Blue Ribbon’s ( when it’s my turn to buy ) and tells me my time will come, everything is fine ( you would think I’d have learned by now, like Charlie Brown [
Peanuts: 1960's Collection (A Charlie Brown Christmas / Charlie Brown's All-Stars / It's the Great Pumpkin / You're in Love / He's Your Dog / It Was a Short Summer)
] and the football ) and then pulls a fast one on me. It seems that MCA Sports is no longer offering the conversion of the Enfield 303 ( I assume the Indian 308 version is still available ) to 7.62x39. I’ll quote his note to me “7.62x39/303 will only work with blanks. Ball ammo will split adopter on first shot.” Well, isn’t that just a barrel full of peaches and cream. I love the guy for being honest and not selling me a hunk of crap, but that still really sucks. I was looking forward to a turnkey solution to cheaper ammo. I guess I’ll be stuck reloading, which is probably better anyway. But an alternative would have been nice.
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Once upon a midnight dreary, word from on high was preached to the preparedness masses that come the collapse, your group should consist of professionals. Lucifer’s Hammer (
Lucifer's Hammer
) had the group of survivors only letting in skilled members. The Survivalist (
Total War (Survivalist #1)
) by Jerry Ahern was about a special forces dude that built a hidden bomb shelter in a mountain stocks with a bezillion rounds of ammo. And, if I’m not mistaken about the source, the retired Green Weenie guy that wrote “The Knife Bible” (
Everybody's Knife Bible
) had another book advocating the ideal group makeup ( i.e.- one doctor, one mechanic, etc. ). From then on it was gospel that survival groups followed this plan. Your doctor would save lives by working out of a fully stocked hospital, the mechanic had a million gallon gasoline tank to refill the repaired vehicles, the radio operator evidently had no problem getting through to sources operating by never ending generators with an atmosphere unpolluted by volcanic ash or nuclear fallout (
Fallout: An American Nuclear Tragedy
), etc. You get the picture- yuppie survivalist fantasy bull pucky. Let me tell you how it is actually going to happen. A group is huddled together around a small fire, heating a pot of corn gruel flavored by human fed cockroaches. A miracle happens and a doctor stops by. I’ll cure your VD, dysentery, chorea, etc. All I need is to be fed ( we’ll ignore the absence of modern medicine he was taught to use and assume he knows herbal medicine and has a stockpile of the plants ). The group looks at each other and tries to decide who to kill to make room for the doc.
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I can’t see but a few dozen survivalists in this country actually having that kind of food surplus. The one where you can support others. I hate to say it, but if both my parents AND my kids showed up needing to be fed, I wouldn’t know what to do ( well, I know what would need to be done-let the old sick ones die-I just don’t know if I could easily do it ). I sure as hell ain’t going to feed strangers. Especially a doctor. He made a heck of a lot more money than me-where are his preps? Student loans (
How to Wipe Out Your Student Loans and Be Debt Free Fast: Everything You Need to Know Explained Simply
), malpractice insurance, an ex-wife and the current ho with a boob job notwithstanding, he still should have stockpiled himself. I might change my tune as lead poisoning slowly and painfully kills me, but I doubt it. I still think there will be little modern doctors can do without drugs and electricity. Not enough for me to starve myself while he hangs around on retainer. No, I think that realistically no one can form an association of survivors with any of them being free loaders. You might think your skill is enough, that it entitles you to be supported. And it might be. But the reality is that no one has a surplus. Oh, you might think you do. If the disaster only lasts a few weeks. But I’m talking about collapse. If a major nuclear exchange takes place, if a nation wide EMP attack happens, or if Yellowstone blows, you are in for a long term self-sufficiency existence. Totally alone. Taking on eaters will kill you faster. So I propose that the likely reality of any post-apocalypse group will be that they consist entirely of those with supplies rather than skills.
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A fat nearsighted insurance adjuster with supplies will be welcomed over an ex-soldier with two MRE’s and an AR-15. Now, more than likely an ex-soldier with more supplies than that will show up because he killed the ex-insurance adjuster. Which brings me to my title, don’t ask, don’t tell. Don’t ask where the supplies came from. You need members to form a group. Who are supplied. I’m not condoning stealing supplies. I have my own and will kill those that try to take them. All I’m saying is that the reality is there won’t be enough survivors with supplies and you need fed members for mutual protection. It is a matter of your own survival that you ignore how perspective members of your group got equipped. Like a lot of things falling under the heading “reality”, it sucks. But is necessary. You need to survive the transition period to a more civilized society.
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14 comments:
What about your loyal minions surely you will have room for them.
Seriously how do you plan on handling the rejection process. I am pretty sure most people begging for a spot in the clan are not going to walk away peacefully. They are going to put on some awful display of emotions hoping you will change your mind. You won't and if you can actually get them to scoot they probably won't go far and may very well join up with some other nearby rejects. This could create some big problems so maybe you should plan for an "out of their misery" option. Either they are accepted in the clan or you put them out of their.......
Man that would be tuff with family and friends. But hey they should have listened to you. One alternative would be to make a map to rawles place and send them over there.
Jim : what you need to do to stockpile cheap ammo is to make your own. Find once-fired (or more) brass and reload it.
Berdan primers can be drilled through with a 2mm drill, and then deprimed with a small but sturdy screwdriver. On rifles, "Large Rifle" Boxer primers can be used, but they are a bit loose (BTN solution). It's better to use Berdan primers and insert the anvil from a spent Boxer primer before priming)
Get a bullet mold and cast your own bullets. This is the only way of prepping that is frugal. Lead is easily found and litteraly dirt cheap.
Experiences gathered in bullet casting, added with the possession of some molds, can be a lucrative business in a slow collapse scenario. There always will be people around eager to buy bullets or cartridges. (13th-hour preppers ? Post-Apocalyptical Yuppies ?)
Besides, weapons like revolvers or bolt-action rifles have been basically designed for cast bullets. Whereas Glocks and their polygonal rifling don't handle cast bullets well, and most semi-autos won't rearm systematically when low pressure ammo is used.
I've got Red Meinke's (MCA) insert for the 7.7 Japanese Type 99 - converts that weird a$$ round chamber to standard 7.62x39. Bought this years ago.
I'd get the Tok insert for just in case - whats the cost, $15? Cheap insurance for converting your rifle from club to 'something'.
Glad to hear he's still around, been meaning to order a .357 Magnum - 20 gauge shotgun barrel sleeve. Make a good short range (< 100 yard) deer rifle, everyone should know at least one spot where they can kill a deer easily. Maybe even make that spot more pleasant, a salt or mineral block near a seep or stream wouldn't be that expensive.
Good points about who do you choose to keep when more mouths than feed exist. I haven't a clue on how to answer this myself. Like you, I believe the physician specialization really will hurt their chances on gaining a place to perch later on. In fact, I think a veternariun might be more useful, at least one who knows livestock vs. aquarium fish. :^)
Sorry for rambling . . .
EMJ- I think a lot of folks will instictivly head for the mountains, to include Idaho. If any dumbass shows up here they deserve to be shot for stupidity. The high desert supports very few folks sustainably. I just don't have as much ammo as Rawles, although the cold will kill them quickly here. But your comment was pretty funny.
Excellent article and hits home for me! I have a bizarre mix of disfunctional relatives. ALL of my relatives think I am insane / fucking stupid for prepping. This clusterfuck makes solo survival sound good. I may die of starvation or sickness but the last thing I hear will be birds chirping or the wind blowing, not someone fucking complaining. Rather than join up with a group, have the skills to make it on your own. It is way easier for a single survivor to hide from the stewpot. It also simplifies decision making.
Hail Darwin
A buddy of mine bought the chamber insert for the .303 from Sportsmans Guide to fire the .32ACP, I've seen it shoot and it sounds like a magnum round .22LR. He now has an insert for the 7.62x25 Tok round and has a couple cases of those put away for short range game gathering and marksmanship training.
you of the perfect hair forgot about sportsmans guide. got 2 for the .303s and 1 for the 762.54r and a case of the 7.62x25 for sure. cant beleive you didn't look. keep em coming thanks delr
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Badger
Cabinite
Member # 70
posted December 12, 2001 22:24
Bigbore,
I also found factory .32 ACP load next to worthless! That 71 grain FMJ just doesn't cut it! I went to a 100 grain cast roundnose sized to .311 with 2 grains of Bullseye, and it was lots more impressive! Even the 85 Grain JHP, (for 32/20) shoots better than the 71 grain FMJ! Only problem you have to have a pen or short piece of rod to knock the cases out of the adaptor with the heavier load! But it will improve the accuracy. But like you say a light cast bullet load is just as accurate and a lot faster to load! I believe that 100 grain cast RN would take down a deer in a pinch, with one placed right behind the ear! and you can carry 150 rounds in the same space 40 rounds of .308 would take up! I have one .308 Mauser with a 29" barrel, it almost makes the .32 ACP respectable!
It seems the rule "Two is one and one is none" applies to everything "survivalist" except peeps.
One doctor, one mechanic...and what happens if something happens to them?
Hello Jim,
Great hair and great article as usual. Keep up the good work. Last night I had the pleasure of watching the show about the unabomber on the History or National Geographic channel.
To my horror, the unabomber lived in a 10 by 9 wooden shack. He had two of those old rifles [looked like enfield ] on the wall, lots of shelves[the entire wall had shelves. He lived on less than $1000 per year. Rode a bike into town whenever he had to go there.
When I saw the simulation of him riding into town on that bicycle, I though of you. Then I thought to myself, if Jim was the unabomber his pilot wife would already be dead. She is still alive right Jim? Jim. Jim.
Jack Schitte
Whining about having to reload to save money on ammo? Sounds like you need to cut back on playing grab ass with every nearby farm animal so you got time for reloading in your busy schedule. JFC! Are you for real? It's nice to have a bunch of factory loaded ammo but I can't afford to stock a lifetime's worth so reloading makes a lot of sense. If you shoot a lot of 308s replace them via reloading. If your favorite 7.62x39 shootin pole dies, reload 30 cal ammo for that 308 or 3006 rusting in the rifle rack. All my centerfire rifles are 30 cal and use a couple of common powders and bullets for all of them.
Sweet baby jesus, I had you confused with a real prepper.
955- your knee-jerk comment has provided me with something to write about for the Thursday article. Thanks!
Sportman's Guide also has one of those adapters for .303 in 7.62x25. Yeah, it's a pistol caliber, but it's similar in ballistics/power to a .45, at least that's the comparison I've heard. The ammo is dirt cheap, but I'd spend a few cents more a round to get non-corrosive stuff.
Find the best deal on ammo here;
http://gun-deals.com/ammo
Pick up one of those TT33 or Takorov pistols, and you'd have two weapons with same ammo.
Again, not a perfect caliber, but better to have a few thousand rounds of it after your .303 is gone. And the price is right.
Jim- sorry I'm commenting so late...sometimes it takes a day or two of thinking about what you've written.
Your last paragraph was masterful. I think I've written it before but sometimes your way of thinking reminds me of how William F. Buckley wrote. That is...to pursue a completely reasonable, logical idea so far...that the inescapable conclusion(s) are unpleasant, or even asocial.
I think that's what make people who prepare such a "Randgruppe" - "edge group" (not being pretentious - I flat out don't know what that would be called in US Englsh). That for (infinitely polite) Americans, it's simply socially unacceptable to say - however gently - no, I won't be sharing with you...if you don't prepare...and I'll use deadly force to keep my things. That is, your culture of politeness won't allow such plain speaking.
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