Friday, January 21, 2011

fundamentals-basic rifle

FRIDAY FUNDAMENTALS-BASIC RIFLE


When you are poor, expecting a pink slip any day and certain that the Four Horsemen will strike when you least expect it, you endeavor to acquire Better Than Nothing supplies. Wheat, water filter, a grinder and a basic rifle. Later on, provided more time and finances allow, you can upgrade. Dry beans, a handgun and rimfire, reloading supplies, etc. But like everything else, your basic supplies do a good enough job that if they prove to be your sole piece of equipment they will do the job more than adequately. You can’t expect the Best, but you can expect Good Enough. The basic rifle might not be the absolute best defensive weapon, but it is more than enough gun to do the job. Whereas calories are calories, with a firearm you can always get cheap skills to compensate for a cheap firearm. An AR-15 in the hands of an idiot is less gun than a single shot rimfire in practiced hands. That said, to some extent you can substitute money for skill. A few thousand rounds down range from a carbine should do the trick against one skilled opponent.

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Your frugal prepper has roughly four choices in picking a thirty caliber rifle. If he wants the most affordable there is one choice. If he wants modern ammunition ( insofar as military use, current manufacture, a non-niche round ) he has one choice ( the same choice if a female/diminutive male wants a manageable round ). If he wants accuracy there is one choice, as well as one for firepower/reliability. I do not consider semi-automatics for several reasons. One, you pay four times the price. Twice/three times for the weapon, once again in magazines. Two, you will absolutely need to conserve your ammunition. 99% of all preppers are amateur, non-trained, non-military personnel that absolutely cannot expect to realistically exercise fire discipline while under the stress of combat. The rifle mechanism acts as the discipline rather than your non-existent training. Every round that you fire after the apocalypse is one less round of ammunition that will ever exist. There won’t be anymore. You can improvise rounds, but you’ll never have modern manufactured, reliable and dependent, well engineered rounds ever again once you cook that bitch off. Ammunition conservation is much more important than high cap magazines being able to lay down suppressive fire ( the whole concept of which will need to be rethought ).

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When you choose between military surplus bolt action weapons, as a bonus you are using a weapon that uses a far superior round. Except for the 7.62x39, and that is only suitable for certain terrains. The other rounds are overkill for man targets. If your target stood obligingly in the open. The overkill in penetration and stopping power compensate for concealment. We all know the stories of the M16 round being deflected by leaves. Not hard to understand since it uses a .22 with a bit more powder. Thirty caliber rounds do not have that problem. And we’ve all heard about the problems the .223 has dropping malnourished insurgents ( three rounds to drop a Skinny ). Better one round to stop the threat. And since you don’t have any rounds to waste, you want one that does the job right the first time.

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If you are poor as poor can be, you only have the option of the Mosin Nagant. This was the Russian, then the Commie, bolt gun for both World Wars. Its round is right there with the 30-06. There are two problems with this rifle. First, it doesn’t have a gas bleed safety. If your primer or case rupture, the super hot gases are directed into the shooter face. This seems to be a non-issue using the current ammunition, but it is something to be very aware of. The next problem is that its iron sites are pure crap. If you want to scope it, you must get a gunsmith to drill and tap a mount. This makes for a no longer cheap rifle. However, if this is all you can afford, get it and make it work. The ammunition is so affordable, unlike all other ammo outside the SKS rounds. You can buy this rifle and four hundred rounds for less than any other rifle without ammunition. It has its problems, but affordability ain’t one of them.

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If you want a modern rifle that uses easy to find and affordable ammunition, you can look into the SKS. It is a carbine rather than a battle rifle, so only use this if your terrain is suitable. I am not advocating a semi-auto rifle. You should convert this to a bolt action. Vlad, one of my longest suffering readers, had this to say almost three years ago…

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“Think one shot one kill. instructions with pictures (dis) assembly SKS
instructions with pictures (dis) assembly SKS


http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/carbine/index.asp

Remove gas piston from inside gas tube. Replace gas tube.bolt operating rod from inside gas tube. replace gas tube.(IF YOU FAIL TO REPLACE GAS TUBE, GAS FROM GAS PORT WILL BLOW YOUR EYES OUT.) You will soon learn to quickly operate SKS as pullbolt. Make every shot count. Ammo supply is limited. One shot to the head or torso kills them as dead as they can get. Two or more shots in the head will not make them any deader. Save ammo. Kill the wounded enemy with a hammer or ax.”

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Thank you, Vlad. A more handy piece of advice is hard to find. The SKS has the disadvantage of an underpowered round, and an inaccurate weapon, and its bayonet is crap, but it is new and the ammo is cheap and available. It is the only one the small statured will be comfortable with. For the longest time I advocated a chamber insert turning your Enfield into an SKS substitute. Having the option of stockpiling the commie round was nice. Alas, upon ordering the insert I was informed it was no longer available since the steel case rounds were cracking the insert.

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If you want a very accurate rifle, go with a surplus Mauser rifle. Although they are easily fouled in the field and thus will be problematic to reload during a fight, they are very accurate. The SKS and the Enfield get Pie Plate Accuracy, whereas the Mauser gets your more modern Inches. The Mausers also have a no gunsmith scope mount available. For you wanna be snipers. As a bonus, the Mauser action is far more gentle on brass, for reloading. Last up, the rifle near and dear to my heart, the Lee-Enfield no.4, the best surplus rifle out there. It is not the most accurate, it mistreats brass. But it has ten rounds, compared to the five of the MN or the Mauser. You are not supposed to be hosing the enemy with lead, but the ability to double the available rounds ready for use in a prolonged firefight is nice. And because it is not accurate, the other side of the coin to a sloppy chamber is that you can reload a cartridge twice as fast as a Mauser. It laughs at dirt and mud in the field. Again, not for suppressive fire but for the inevitable quickly needed follow up shot. Handy to have for multiple opponents. And, while hard to put into words, there is the feel of the rifle. It is sexy, a warm and fuzzy companion. It molds to its user. The Mauser is just a sterile hunk of metal. The Enfield is more alive, organic. Like I said, a bit hard to describe. But you can feel the difference.

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A rifle for every need. And far cheaper at $100-$300, compared to the $700-$1500 of semi-autos. You can put the difference into ammo.

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11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey Jim, Vlad's link is broken. No need to post this - just thought I'd let you know.

Anonymous said...

You can get scope mounts for the Mosin that do not require drilling and tapping by a gunsmith. You pop out the rear iron site and replace it with a mount. You can find these on Amazon.com with a cheap (but functional) long eye relief scope. The set-up costs less than the rifle. I suggest using some loctite on all the screws. It made it possible for me to actually hit pie plates with my Mosins at 100 yards. (My eyes are not good enough for most iron sites at 100 yards.)

vlad said...

correction to text:
“Think one shot one kill. instructions with pictures (dis) assembly SKS
http://tinyurl.com/yvrpjyremove
bolt operating rod from inside gas tube. replace gas tube." should read “Think one shot one kill. instructions with pictures (dis) assembly SKS
http://tinyurl.com/yvrpjy
Remove bolt operating rod from inside gas tube. replace gas tube."
Click on http://tinyurl.com/yvrpjy to get this http://www.surplusrifle.com
/sks/carbine/index.asp

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the heads-up about the gas bleed issue on the Mosin-Nagant. I knew there had to be a reason they are only $89.

How does one know if a Lee Enfield is a #4? Does it say somewhere on it?

vlad said...

SKS front sight adjusts for both windage and elevation. Place a suitably handsome chunk of plastic with 1/8 or 3/16 hole on rear of the receiver in line with both rear and front sights. Mark that place with pencil. Lower rear sight. Secure the plastic rear peep sight in place with Shoe Goo or Plumbing Goop.
Let is dry overnight. At 25 yards adjust front sight so that bullet strikes point of aim.
Fire at 100 yards. Adjust front sight so that bullet strikes 3.5" high.

24" from nose to navel on average man.
Your SKS won't shoot 1" Groups. It'll place all shots on a 3x5 card. You're not impressed? Stand before a mirror. Place 3x5 card on your nose. Think about what you see.
Adjust sight to hit center mass.
following info taken from Hornady site
http://www.hornady.com/store/7.62X39-123-gr-SST/

7.62X39 123 gr SST® Steel Case
Test Barrel 20"
Trajectory (inches)
100....200....300......400.......500
3.50...0.00..-14.80..-45.20..-96.60

MV.....100..200...300...400...500
2350..2040..1755..1506..1289..1129

energy ft lb
1508...1136...841.....616....454...348

Anonymous said...

Jim - I own an M1-A semi auto rifle in .308. It was given to me by a friend who could not own it anymore because of personal issues. Long story. Anyway, I sat on it for a year or so before I took it out to shoot. I went to a range and started shooting. The action would not cycle. I had to pull the operating rod back and manually load each round. Other than that it was a pleasure to shoot. You could feel the power going downrange. Hard to explain but I loved it. I went home and downloaded the manual for this rifle. I discovered there was a small screw at the front of the forearm that converts it from semi-auto to manual by diverting the gas. This was for the grenade launcher attachment. After I turned the screw it operated normally. I bought some 10 round magazines for it and by making it manual, it is a nice substitute for your beloved Enfield. Plus the price was right! I purchased a synthetic stock to lighten it up. My plan for the future is to get a scope on it and make it a useful long range rifle. I know you detest semi-autos but I like this one for three reasons. First, the .308 is a standard Nato round and will always be available after the crash. Unfortunately it is not as common or as cheap as the .223 but I like the power and range. Secondly, the M-14 type action is simple and robust. There is a learning curve associated with complete disassembly though, but it's fairly easy to field strip. Finally of course there is the easy turn of the screw to make it a single shot rifle. I have 5 round and 10 round magazines for the purpose of getting low to the ground for prone shooting. The standard 20 round box magazine protrudes quite a distance it seems. Please give me your opinion on this family of rifles, the M-1 Garand and the M-14/M1-A. And of course, you have fine and awesome hair.Thanks for your informative blog.

Anonymous said...

I highly recommend competitive shooting for training, if you can afford to do it. NRA smallbore and highpower shooting is great training. The CMP, Civilian Marksmanship Program is good training and can get you an M1 at a lower price than you'd normally get one.

I also highly recommend "varmint" shooting. Varmint shooting is extremely good training because it involves killing. Yes, you are killing things. It also involves ammo conservation because you can't hose down an area without scaring all the varmints within miles. A good day, depending on the plentitude of targets, may be 3 well-aimed shots each resulting in a kill. It may be ONE shot, on a sheep-worrying 'yote a farmer's let you bait or lure in on their field. Conversely, it can be expending a silly amount of pellets on a silly amount of starlings or pigeons in a barn. It can be patiently waiting for rats around your place. It can be going out and shootin' rats at the dump, if such noble institutions as random illegal dumping-places exist where you live. It can be popping an apple tree endangering ground hog sort of thing with an Olympic 10-meter gun, waiting for the rare time the jowly critter pokes his head above the surface. It can be nailing crows. There's a magazine devoted to varmint shooting, or at least there was, so much is online these days. It's also good training in keeping on the Q.T. because such fun activities are NOT suitable for conversation around the water cooler at work.

So there you have it. Two practical ways to train. NRA matches and varmintin'. Have fun and stay safe.

Anonymous said...

I am a very small person (5'4" 140-150 lbs) and I've literally shot an M1A all afternoon, military surplus ammo, all shooting standing. The next day I was sore, not from the mild recoil but from holding the thing up in the standing position! (It's length of pull is a bit long for me). I was hitting soda cans at 100 yards all day, it's a pretty fun little plinker as long as someone else is paying for the ammo. I write this not to brad but to say, the M1A is a big, hefty shooting stick, but it can still be handled and handled well, by fairly small people. I find the recoil less annoying than that of an M16, which is sharper. The M1A just gives a friendly nudge.

I dunno about a rear site mounted with Shoe Goo, but the SKS sounds very friendly for making a homemade peep sight for. Err on the side of a bigger hole rather than smaller for low light and less than ideal shooting conditions.

One of my favorite plinkers right now is a Red Ryder, $25 at Wal-Mart, with good ol' open sights. I find focusing so the front is clear is the way to go. The rear can be fuzzy as hell, focus on that front.

There's no substitute for experience. The greatest shooter I've met personally was simply noted for shooting more matches, more practice, than anyone. His dad was taking him around to every match possible when he was a kid. If all you can afford is a Red Ryder, that's still practice.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that a frugal person such as yourself doesn't advise combining a hunting rifle with a defensive rifle e.g.. a 30-30 lever action or something that is oh so common in the US. Many of these types have a lot of available ammo sources.

No, instead you advocate some foreign made, older style battle rifles. Why?

Suburban Survivalist said...

I think that gas-bleed bit is overblown nonsense - highly unlikely you'll ever see that as an issue.

As Anon 7:48 notes, you can get non-drill/tap scout mounts for the Mosin Nagant (and the SKS) and use a LER scope. There is also a non-drill/tap mounts made by "Jmeck" (Google it, $90 shipped on eBay) that allows use of iron sights. Still need to get the bolt bent at an extra $55.

Over Christmas, my brothers and I finally shot our newly acquired Mosins. At 300 yards with iron sights hid an old dryer 60%, and a man-sized cut out 40% of the time. Not too bad for those sights and first time shooting them. No misses at 100 yards, and few at 200 yards. We're scoping them.

Google about guys hitting 1,000 yard targets with them. If you think Mosin accuracy is crap, that's probably based on inexperienced opinion. I know you love the .303 (as do I), but that bias is apparent.

By far the biggest drawback of the Mosin Nagant is that all that cheap surplus ammo is corrosive, meaning you have to clean within a couple hours of shooting if not sooner. Amonia and/or hot soapy water down the barrel, then clean normally. But at $80 for 440 rounds, well worth it.

Anonymous said...

The Lee Enfield IV may be (slightly) less accurate than a Mauser, but it can't be placed in the same class with the SKS/AK as far as accuracy goes.

My Enfield can consistently shoot 1.5" groups at 100 yards with a 4x Weaver scope. That is on par with any Mauser or modern rifle that can be had for under $1k.