Thursday, February 17, 2011

apocalypse rv'ing

APOCALYPSE RV’ING


Mohave Rat, who regularly posts comments and the occasional guest article until too many fools give him a hard time about them and then he rightfully stops giving his free labor ( I get paid to write, so you can abuse me- but please don’t be hating on the guest writers who are doing this for free ), was kind enough to leave a comment which prompted today’s article. Usually on Monday’s I have a tough time coming up with an idea. I’m so busy posting the weekend written articles ( it takes time to post, what with the Amazon links and such ) in the morning and have too little time to read much prior to work, which would put me back into paranoid mode which prompts my brain to go into lock-down panic mode which usually dislodges an idea. I know I make this look easy, but there is definitely an art and science to having enough ideas to keep posting after four years ( by the by, when I get around to it I’ll be paying the nominal fee over at Blog To Print to get four years of the blog put into an e-book. The one now is only the first three years and three months or something like that. I won’t be making any money off it, but if any guest writers from the past object to my reprinting their article, let me know now please ).

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Back in the day when I would read the “Dwelling Portably” newsletter I was always amazed at the strategy of illegally camping. The two authors had been doing it for decades. Now, granted, they were squatting in the Pacific northwest which is a beautiful area and has very agreeable weather. But they were still squatting which just invites police harassment and forces you to keep on the move. Which means you can’t live like a normal survivalists which entails building concrete bunkers, ammunition dumps, punji stick pits, explosive ordinance booby traps, laying down staked fields of fire or setting up infrared surveillance systems. It is also hard to stockpile three years of wheat berries if you are backpacking. I always thought it would be much more practical to spend a few grand and settle down. Of course, I moved so often with my parents as a child and then so often as a young adult that I have come to seek nothing less than stability and welcome the same view from my front door forevermore. A lot of folks like to move around and see the world. I think the rest of this pitiful dung heap sucks monkey testicles and wish to see no more of it. If I never leave northern Nevada again I’ll be happy.

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For those folks that like to be mobile, RV survival is really easy as pie. As Mohave Rat said ( for those that refuse to be enlightened by the comments section which, yes, granted, has a lot of screaming tomfoolery but which also has a lot of invaluable knowledge to add to my narrow worldview ) it was far cheaper to give up his eastern abode and RV than stay put. He can handle up to $10 a gallon gas and still stay in his budget. See how he factored in partial collapse in his shelter plans? You don’t need an expensive RV and you don’t need to own land. I’ll use the southwest as an example, although RV living should be feasible most places. Out west on government land ( not all government land, but for instance BLM land ) you can camp in one stop for twenty days and then must move twenty miles away and start over again ( I believe this is called “boondocking” if you want to Google it and get tips and ideas ). Pick your area, get a topo map showing who owns what parcels and now you know where you can live. Personally, I would pick an area with surface water, not well water. And only park within walking distance of it. Also, you will need to cache supplies. So you need to keep those walking distance also. If your RV breaks, or after the collapse it is stolen, you want your valuables hidden. The RV is just a solid tent and a shady spot, not a fortress. Prepare for the eventual need to abandon it.

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For those not receiving a pension, you can still use this strategy. Jingle mail your house keys, buy an RV, and go live in a trailer park near your selected government land. You are paying rent, but on weekends go out to dig spots for caching supplies. In the event of unemployment you can leave the park and get free rent. Or, just park out of town and commute in. But only use that if the gas is cheaper than the rent and you can do mechanical repairs yourself. You have mobility and even if you pay rent now you can stop when you want to. Yes, a mobile home is much bigger, almost like a house. But an RV gives you options come the economic crapstorm. And if you cache all your supplies you don’t live in clutter and an RV doesn’t seem so bad.

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I’ve written on living in a van, but that is really cramped quarters. Yet most RV’s are a bit pricy ( their previous owners refusing to believe the instant depreciation applies to their RV just as it does to cars ). And when I say RV I’m talking the trailers as well as the motor homes. If you think about it you are really only paying extra for the cabinets, the 12v wiring, fold out beds and the sewer tanks. Other than that, anything on wheels can be turned into an RV if you do a bit of work yourself. I bought my 1965 step van ( like a UPS truck ) for only $750 because it had been turned into an RV ( most potential buyers wanted an empty work van for tools and supplies ). Much cheaper than an RV, and it got 15 miles to the gallon on a V6. I later went back to a trailer, but the Hippie Bread Van still pulls yeoman duty as a storage unit. Don’t think you need to spend tens of thousands on your new home ( warning- check out RV parks FIRST, before you buy an RV. A lot of parks are elitist snob whores that only want bright shiny new RV’s in their park. They won’t admit to age bias, but they want the well off seniors with their golden SS checks- not riffraff hippies in homemade homes ).

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See how easy becoming financially free is? Cache supplies within walking distance and have surface water nearby and you are now set survival wise.

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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

James, great as always. How about expanding on the cache idea. Dig holes all over the west? Rent storage units? GPS? Here's a seed of an idea. Bridges never move. Give us your wisdom, big guy.

Anonymous said...

I know a guy who lived out of his full size van for almost 2 years. He paid $24 a month for a fitness center membership so he could shower everyday. He would park in different places overnight. Sometimes a 24hr grocery store, sometimes a bar parking lot. He said he never had any trouble. Eventually his boss let him park overnight at his job. He ended up renting a trailor house and got sucked back into the 'monthly bills' lifestyle trap once more.

russell1200 said...

I have always thought it was a fairly precarious life style: particularly for the elderly. But you do what you can afford.

If you cannot afford to do much stockpiling and the RV is cheaper, then that takes away one potential downside.

The other possible downside would be the inability to form a community with your neighbors. That is more of a drawback for some than others. LOL

On a different note, you commented on depreciation. I cannot remember where I saw it (probably the WSJ) but they have pretty well shown that it is the land, not the house on top of it, that holds its value. Even in the bubble that was obvious if you thought about it. People would buy the land, knock down the house, and build a more modern house on it. The only possible exception would be historic homes in very valued locations (certain areas of Charleston, SC for instance). So I would not knock mobile homes, rv's, etc. too much for the fact they depreciate.

Anonymous said...

Why you persist in using a completely evil hosting service like Blogger is beyond me, as opposed to going to a fairly nice, readable one like Wordpress.

I can tell you have to key in the Amazon keywords yourself now. For a while since they were rather badly done, I thought some robot at Amazon was doing them, but then I noticed your misspellings are in the links also, "sorrel" hiking boots and so on. So yes it is a bit of work.

$10 gas may be within your RV'ing friend's budget but by the time gas is $10, tens of millions rather than millions will be homeless and the desperation will be out in the open on the street rather than semi-hidden as it is now. He may still be able to afford gas but will he be able to afford being a target? At $10 gas it's Game Over for 50% of the country's population and there will be more than a few willing to literally kill for the normal load of supplies to be found in an RV.

The reason I slam Blogger for its general and overall evilness is because it is truly an evil hosting site, and because now people are required to supply their personal information to post here now. Unless they are smart enough to hit "back" and then hit "comments" again and get past the blogger/FBI/CIA/your evil ex's bogus fake-O log-in screen. It's just one more layer cutting into your readership, I suggest you leave this evil, poorly implemented, it-was-hot-shit-back-in-1997 for Wordpress or set up your own site.

Anonymous said...

If you have a small lot of land in the boonies, don't forget about using an old schoolbus for your "cabin". A lot less fragile than a "camper". Because of federal safety laws pertaining to rollover accidents, they are built like an army tank - so to speak.

A woodburning stove with chimney can easily be installed in them. Plus they can hold massive amounts of weight (don't try having a 55 gallon barrel of water in your "camper").

Old schoolbuses painted camo used to be a common "hunting cabin" in Minnesota when I was a kid.

2knives said...

Buy a piece of junk land and boondock till you need a home. When you tire of travel or gas becomes scarce, go home to your junk land and become Jim D. Pre cache your supplies for the times of scarcity. One now has the best of both worlds.

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of junk land better than an RV - but it's worth giving full time RV/Van living a though.

I believe it's cheaper and more secure, especially if you know your neighbors. You can garden and crap in the woods if you don't have working plumbing. You can keep a chicken or two, you can walk or bike to town if you must. That type of stuff, not that you're going to grow all your own food of be totally independent but would be nice to supplement the bulk grains with fresh greens.

Having an RV would make you a stranger wherever you go and the target of police harassment unless you stayed in the same park or three. There's the constant threat of break downs, you need gas, license plates, maybe auto insurance, impound fees on your 'house' if it gets towed away with much of your stuff in it.

Might be fun to live in a van and travel a while, but have a backup plan and safe place to go.

Of course being stuck in one spot on the junk land might make you a target. When the marauding gay body builder hordes on motorcycles(remember the opening of Road Warrior?)When they come run and hide, let them ransack the place if they want - your good stuff is cached away for another day.

Anonymous said...

use to write articles for Dwelling Portably. fun times but got tired of dealing with woodland hippies....

have fun..

Wildflower

mohave rat said...

Thank you for your kind remarks bison.

As far as my motorhome goes:

I have 150 watts of solar panels , four golf cart batteries and a 1000 watt inverter.

I have large fresh water storage and large basement compartment storage for food.

I have rv'ed all over America but don't travel much anymore. Sometimes I stay in one area for 6 months. for years I traveled up and down the same stretch of hwy from Laughlin Nv to Lake Tahoe area and back.

I don't have to own the bushes to shit in them.My Rv is "respectable" looking and is readily accepted most places.

If you don't wear camo and grow a unabomber beard,run around spouting off anti-american rhetoric and basically behaving like an asshole and crybabying about your goddamn rights, chances are good you won't even see cops.

My grandfather was a share cropper. He grew lots of crops on land that wasn't his.When a total or partial collapse occurs, law enforcement will have better things to do than police sections of BLM land for squatters.Besides, I always buy a permit and stay legal if possible.

I highly recommend a storage shed rental for your extra stuff. It makes your RV easier to maintain. Besides, like I said the other day,I don't need much.

I don't recommend my way for anybody else. My circumstances are different than average. I don't have an extended family I can rely on, I have severe physical handicaps which prevent me from lots of things I'd like to try, and I have always lived like a nomad so this type of lifestyle feels "normal" to me.

take stock of what you got to work with and do what you think is best. Take charge of your own life and survival.

Always believe what Bison and I say because we are always right!

the rat

Freyja said...

Depending on your skills, a van or rv is a great option.
Mechanical skills, chilton's manual and a good mechanics tool kit are a necessity. Keep extra parts and fluids in the vehicle.
If you are a jack of all trades you can follow the work and pick up construction/lawn maintenance type jobs for gas and food (and Preps) $$$. No rent or utilities (or tax forms) means you get to keep all your $$.
Vans may be smaller, but they're also easier to "stealth sleep" in.
You can park a white van next to any construction site and no one will question it there.
Van or RV'ing also allows you the flexibility to find a friendly community of people, and have an instant living space.

@Anon. 7:26
As far as burying stuff..yeah, bridges never move, but soil and and water sure move around them.
Don't expect your stuff to be there after a long heavy rain.
I'd recommend unusual trees (split tops, weird growths, etc.) or unique rock formations.

@Anon 1:28 Old (60's or 70's) buses are great. Try to get a highschool bus unless you're shorter than 5'6". I know lots of people who live in buses. They mostly don't leak, heat up fast, and are roomy. They are so big they aren't exactly low profile. They attract a lot more attention than vans or RV's.

Another upside to the mobile lifestyle is you can unite with other van dwellers/road pirates and form your own caravan Mad Max style!

Oh, and get a diesel if at all possible. More fuel efficient when loaded down with crap.