Thursday, February 24, 2011

bug out II

BUG OUT II


Some time ago a minion asked me about a preference between more 12 volt batteries or more solar panels. Which one was better? Now, obviously this is specific to your location. If you have a month of clouds between sun you need both in abundance. If you have almost everyday sunny you need almost no batteries. And if you have a modest amount of cloudy days you need few batteries. My advice is only based on my own weather. At worse, we get a solid week of clouds with one day of sun. And cold weather. My batteries aren’t freeze proof in their location, so the best way to compensate for that is to try to keep the charge maximized most times. A charged battery usually won’t freeze. I prefer less batteries and more panels. Since I usually only use five amps of juice a day ( about 60 watts ), six days of clouds barely draw down my two marine batteries. On the seventh day they recharge ( I use one hour of charging capacity per day ). Thus, my batteries don’t work too hard which helps maximize their life and I don’t have to worry about freezing. Also, panels last much longer than batteries and the cost difference between a deep charge battery and a fifteen watt panel is negligible. Sorry I didn’t answer sooner. Sometimes I need time pondering and sometimes I forget the question if I don’t write it down.

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Yesterday I was rambling a bit but two things to take from the article were, 1) fear your own government more than terrorists and, 2) bugging out is useful for the evil people. I won’t elaborate on government evil, that has been covered scores of times. But let me touch again on convoys of evil dudes descending on your tiny town five hundred miles away from an urban jungle. Almost no one is inaccessible. If you have a road in, so does everyone else. Lucifer’s Hammer is a great illustration of this. The problem with living far from a city is that the farther away you are, the higher the probability that those that reach you are far more capable of Very Bad Things. By the time the last of the cars with the last of the gas reach you, they will be veteran fighters that bushwhacked and hijacked their way to you. And I’m not just saying they will be escaped inmates or gang members. There will be a few Yuppies that are able to throw off their civilized training and revert to barbarism. Those that first figure out that only the ruthless will make it, and are the first to act on that conclusion will be the survivors. It could be any meek and mild mannered former accountant or clerk that has a baby and wife to provide for. The truly scary ones will be the “guns-only” survivalists that made up their minds long ago this would be their escape route and actually planned for it. The regular civilians will take precious time making up their minds. The gun heavies already have. Ladies, do you see what denying prep money does? Your crazy as a craphouse rat husband could have sheltered in place and only been a threat locally. But since they could only buy ammo and guns, they have to raid outwards. Okay, I’m mostly jesting. Any spouse in denial would prohibit both food AND gun preps.

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So, not only must you compete with government interference if you decide to bug out, far worse you must contend with the parasites that want your gasoline to get their over laden SUV as far away from the city as possible. Now, I’m not saying all bug-out plans are silly. If you can do one or both things, be able to walk worse case and/or go to an undesirable location, you should be okay. Take my earlier example. I lived in Carson City and had land 330 miles away in Elko. If I had pre-positioned my supplies in Elko, I could have walked there in two weeks at the longest. In Lawrence Of Arabia by Liddell Hart, more than one reference is made to Arab raiding parties carrying fifty pound sacks of flour as their only rations for month plus long journeys. They lived off a pound of flour a day. Granted, they were riding rather than marching, and the friendly villages at the start and end of their journeys allowed them to feast to compensate for lost weight. But it does illustrate that a healthy individual can live on a pound of wheat a day for some time ( prolonged periods would see an increase of ill effects, but for those of you questioning a year long diet of wheat, it is far better than starvation ).

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Jerky would be a better food weight wise if you are making bug-out bags for the family for two weeks walk, but it can be done with flour. To get back to my example, I was quite worried about either sudden gasoline shortages, government road blocks, or both. Since I could comfortably work minimum wage jobs, and since my situation would be improved rather than worsened by moving up to my retreat, it worked for me. I didn’t have to worry about bugging out. But if you have no choice, just be close enough to hoof it. And, try not to be moving to a post-apocalypse paradise. If you are moving to the mountains or naturally watered agricultural land, of course all the dangerous survivors are going to be joining you. Bugging out has mostly focused on the good and righteous going to their super retreats in pimpin SUV rides towing tons of gear. Rouge warrior bands made up of former gang members attacking your retreat would then follow. But really, the reality could very well be those bad guys being the successful bug-out survivors.

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The universal desire is to flee to security. The mountains are a safe castle and the plains of food are the granaries for all those fleeing the cities. If all aspiring survivalists think this way, why doesn’t it follow that the urban sheeple also have the same conclusions? Bugging out won’t work if you need your vehicle. The most successful survivors of the city flight will be the most ruthless and dangerous. And the number one destination for them will be mountain towns of farm villages. It isn’t enough to avoid bugging out, you also need to stay away from those that do. If you need a car to escape you will face gas shortages, government road blocks, gridlock, and the farther away you get the more dangerous the journey will become as the savages need to replenish their gasoline stocks. They didn’t carry gas cans, but you did. Target. They will attack anyone just for the gas in the tank, but if they spy cans attached to you, you are done. Aren’t you glad you decided to live so far away from a safe place? Your wife and children will certainly think so until they are under attack.

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13 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you want to add to your list of reasons to move to your neck of the woods one would be that roads are superfluous (as are roadblocks); everything with ground clearance better than a Testarossa can run cross country. Roads are funnels that concentrate travelers and are therefore dangerous. They make roadblocks possible and ambushes easier.

vlad said...

Mr Dakin wriote, "I lived in Carson City and had land 330 miles away in Elko. If I had pre-positioned my supplies in Elko, I could have walked there in two weeks at the longest."
I am 78 with a bad knee, and unlikely to make good time walking. Even a geezer with a bad knee can ride his bicycle that far with rucks strapped to it, or pulling a bicycle trailer with an extra wheelset, six new tires, fifteen new tubes and air pump. It is said that you must avoid airfree bicycle tires that will break your spokes and rims; and shake your bones to pieces. I have heard that many times so it must be true. I honestly cannot understand why this not happened to me. I have ridden almost daily on airfree tires since 2004 on an old Schwinn Impact mountain bike with Sun Mammoth Big Fat Rim wheelset without problems except for three broken spokes. I am 6-3 265 lbs.

Anonymous said...

There's been quite a bit written about the greater danger of being in a remote country place. In a city or town, at least in theory, you have a local network of neighbors looking out for each other. In the country, the real spread-out country, a mob can attack at their leisure and the neighbors may be too far away to even know.

We recently had a guy living alone and too blabby about his guns, get home invaded and tortured all night until he gave the combination to his safe, and he's lucky they didn't kill him. He had to free himself, then crawl to a neighbor's, clothes tattered and covered in blood, for help. If he'd been living with another person, even a damn DOG or two, they may not have gotten the jump on him. If they'd killed him, it probably would have been days before someone noticed.

I guess these times call for being a bit more of "nosy neighbors" among the neighbors we're allies with. Right now the neighborhood communication system here consists of people running next door or down the street, and knocking on doors. Nothing so modern as the telephone. One neighbor uses a bell to call her son to the house if he's out back beyond the reach of her voice. As things get worse, I expect technology to go backwards, severely. CB radios are gonna seem like Star Trek tech.

Caches of Roman silver coins are always being found out in bumfuct nowhere in England, the legacy of the doomers of that time bugging out to their country estates.

Klaus said...

Jim, I get so annoyed when others criticise your spelling...but you gave me an unintentional smirk with, "rouge warrior bands" - sorry!

You're right, of course - hoofin' it to a cache makes a lot of sense. Anyone driving is "prey". Without knowing what I'm talking about...I would assert that our young men who've served in Irak - if they've learned NOTHING ELSE from their time there, they've learned how to set up a road block.

James m Dakin said...

Vlad- I don't discount your experiance with no-flat tubes. I'm just passing on the advice of a bike mechanic. His advice would be extra cautious, not necessarily gospel truth.

Spud said...

When I was young and dumb, instead of old and forgetful. I used to take off from Redfish lake in Idaho with nothing more than a 60 lb. pack, fishing pole And dog. Hiking from there to Atlanta, Idaho. Now to you that don't know it's like 75 miles as the crow flies. Maybe at least 150 miles as the human walks. Needless to say lots of up n downs in the sawtooth wilderness area.
This trip would usually take at least two weeks and I was then probly in close to olympic condition. These days I'm not, yet could probably walk most into the dirt. That stated, it's a lot of rise and fall tween Carson city and Elko not to mention it's real desert ! You'd have to carry all water or have stashes along the way. Bottom line it would take more than two weeks. Hell it once took me three days to hitch hike from Elko to Carson LOL

James m Dakin said...

spud- you'd have water the second half. It's the first half that might bite you in the ass. Another reason it was just better to move up beforehand.

Suburban Survivalist said...

I may have said it here before that I live in VA and plan on bugging out to my parents 100 acre farm in NE - about 1,300 miles - while I’m searching for a job closer. While things could fall apart tomorrow if we’re hit with an EMP or aliens arrive, I think there is some time left before things fall apart. Perhaps famous last words…

Do I like or prefer such a situation? No. And neither do a lot of others in the same boat. As you noted some plan from the start to kill and take what they need (I work with one who told me this – he’s a former Marine that likely can do it). But while those of us stuck in metro areas are looking for jobs in more remote locations, we must plan for the worst.

I believe you’ve mentioned offspring in FL. What of them?

For bug out bag food I prefer Spam, corned beef, and peanut butter – all super calorie dense.

330 miles in two weeks? That’s over 23 miles a day kept up for 14 days. Unless you practice humping this now, not likely. Not saying I could do that right now, I know better.

How many are you at your little trailer? Is it easily seen from the road? If you cook something, how far will the smell carry out there? I know you love to hate the semi-autos in smaller caliber than your beloved .303, but when faced with a bunch of dudes at less than 100 yards with AR/AK/etc. how do you think you’ll fare? Do you really think you’re that safe?

Anonymous said...

Three words to prevent the big city yuppies from bugging-out to your small town: Blow. The. Bridges.

Why else would God have permitted mankind to invent nitrogen lawn fertilizer and diesel fuel?

Spud said...

What I'd be concerned about in Elko more than anything, is the lack of suitable fuel for heat and the long winter...

2knives said...

You are out surviving Mr. R. over in S-Blog country. Bugging in makes sense in a lot of ways. You should know your own back yard. Where the H2O is and alternate roots to get there and return. Once you have been attacked and repelled all boarders the zombies will look for an easier target. The key to all this is keeping a low profile and your mouth shut. Look and act like a sheep until the wolves come. And by ALL means, keep your powder dry.

Suburban Survivalist said...

Note to self; see anyone monkeying with anything that could affect the structural integrity of bridges in towns/areas I must pass through, shoot them. Twice.

Anonymous said...

Liked the "Rouge Warrior" reference? Was it intentional? lol