BURIED TREASURE
As much as I hate the process of digging, the unending labor which accomplishes very little at the time ( hey, I ain’t twenty years old anymore, in shape and lusting after endorphins ), the end results fill my blackened shriveled heart with orgasmic
glee
. I simply love the idea of
underground dwellings
, structures or construction. Perhaps if I lived in an unending forest I would love gathering and burning wood for heat, for just as in gardening, your
primal lusts
are filled with whatever saves your life. Here in the wastes of the northern Nevada high desert, I love the thought of an earth sheltered home which keeps me snug and cozy as the temperatures plummet past zero in the middle of November. Not that I’m living in one, as of yet. I have the covered pit, as an emergency shelter if needed. And I’m one fifth done digging the earth pipe trench. I imagine eventually, if the center holds or not, I’ll be moving underground some time in the future. Unless the earth pipes really work wonders. Then it is just making the earths stabilizing feature work for the aboveground area. But I still have daydreams of an underground cave. I can’t dream of lustful females, wealth, semi-automatic weapons or even internal combustion transportation to work so I might as well dream of what is available. Alas, this is not the
buried treasure
that I am really thinking of. Well, I’m thinking of it but not for today’s article. Today, we talk of modern man uncovering ancient treasures hidden for nearly two thousand years.
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If I’m not mistaken, and please keep in mind I’m referring to my imperfect memory here,
topsoil
is renewed at a pace of about an inch every hundred years. Okay, some areas might constantly lose some by natural disasters and constant wind, some might get more if there is volcanic ash upwind, and some might see absolutely glacial speed build-up due to little
composting
organic growth, but as a general rule this is how long it takes for the fertile soil to build back up. If an empire uses up all the soil from overgrowing, then collapses, they need to wait a few hundred years before that area can be successfully planted again. So, if soil is constantly, albeit very slowly, being added to, it makes sense that something buried is going to be harder and harder to find with every passing century. If a Roman dude buried some
precious metal coins
, chances are good it is under the original amount of dirt, plus at least another foot that has accumulated since then.
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And if a plow only goes down so far, what are the changes that a buried treasure are going to be found? Close to zero. Unless a backhoe is digging a new foundation or something similar, the treasure stays buried. So, given our petroleum powered machines it stands to reason that we’ll suddenly start finding a lot more buried treasure than in previous centuries ( notice how I behaved myself and didn’t start going on and on about how the insatiable
greed of bankers
for more interest payments helps to get new buildings erected for no good purpose and we are raping the earths resources just for their wealth and if the foul pathetic evil pukes would just die at the hand of their own created monster most of this digging wouldn’t be happening ). To me, it seems a bit amazing that there is so many caches out there being found. And if you follow my logic here you most likely will agree that buried treasure surely indicates further proof of rapid collapse.
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A slow
collapse 
would see wealth buried for safe keeping being passed on to the heirs of the wealthy. Roman dudes everywhere would be telling their sons, Roman dude son, I’ve buried
silver
in the northeast corner of the apple orchid. It is yours when these troubled times pass and the
Empire
stabilizes. Now, a slow collapse advocate would just tell you that barbarians invaded and killed off both father and son. Or that a plague killed off the whole family. Seriously? Are you sticking with that story? If barbarians invaded an estate that produced wealth, what is the first thing they would do? They would
torture
people for the treasures location. And as soon as news of a
plague
reached a rich household, the treasure would be dug up and the residents would flee. I’m not saying that the slow collapse is impossible. No one knows for sure because we weren’t there and no records were left of a several hundred year period. But as I’ve said before, I believe the lack of records IS proof of fast collapse. No one peacefully slowly dies off from lack of food. They leave diaries. They leave written word of the daily disintegration. I don’t care what the rate of literacy was, someone leaves a record. So why would there be no proof of slow collapse unless it was a fast collapse? Again, I know I could be wrong. It just doesn’t make any sense.
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Why would treasure be left where it lay? My guess is that by that time, only food mattered. With overpopulation and the precarious supply to Rome of northern African
wheat
, it wouldn’t take much of a push to send everyone into a panicked famine complete with fighting and
cannibalism
. Every famine sees cannibalism. It might be a last resort, but when the grain ships cease and the public bread stops, how long do you think it would take before the stewpot gets fired up? All these welfare pukes didn’t have any stored food, they were on the daily dole. As soldiers are diverted back to Rome the outlaying areas are left defenseless. It all starts falling apart quickly. Did the barbarians attack that quickly that only the wealthy citizens could take up their weapons to help defend the town? And so perished in the fight, their hoard of buried coins left a secret? Or did their fellow townsmen attack the residence, knowing that was the only place likely to have food? Remember, the
Roman empire
did to some degree specialize and centralize. Chances are good these places had no farms producing local food. The English pottery center comes to mind. They were a ceramic factory, one assumes with the residents churning out pottery, not working fields. Or, could the fields have been overworked? Abandoned some time ago?
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I know, I know. When you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. When you are a doomer, everything seems to point to utter and complete collapse come resource scarcity. But I just can’t come up with a rational explanation why buried treasure would stay that way in a slow collapse.
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12 comments:
Could it be that someone, after knocking off the Rich Dude, dug it up and Reburied it for his own personal use, then was later killed? Or the Rich Dudes successfully pulled a Bug Out, but had to leave their Stash behind? Or could it be that it was a Smart Roman Dude, and he had several stashes, and could only get to a couple of them? You and I both know there are hundreds of stashes scattered around the United States by the First Wave of Survivalists in the '70s, and they have since died, never revealing where they buried their 5 gallon buckets and their sealed PVC tubes with the guns in them. You aren't the only one out here with a Healthy Sense of Paranoia, or greedy ex-wives that gave them Hell when money was spent on Survival Gear instead on their latest Trip to the Mall for their Designer Jeans.
Jim i agree with you on the fast collapse of the roman empire but rome had debased the amount of silver in their coins almost like we have.SO their caches may have been very simuler to what most modern preppers put in our own and it was used up. It was common to put seeds for the next year in pottery and bury it in a dry spot so it was safe.If invaders ate your food you went hungry if they ate your seed you were doomed.I think a roman cache would have been seeds a bow, arrowheads,a spearhead, hoe and ax,flint and sword.All these items were daily use.It was their rifle, MRE, seed zippo, fiskers and leatherman .Mabe romans were practical in what they hid mabe there were no yuppie roman survivalists :} Not every one today would trade for silver if hungery it may have been even of less value back then. what do you think mabe 2000 years hasnt made survival mindset much differant. gary in bama
herpes anyone????
duh yuh lick LED so much cuz yuhr frayed of thhu dark?????!
wire u frayed of thu dark?
didya hava bad chilhood? Tll me bout it.
-lol minyun
today's post sucked,sorry. try harder. slow or fast? who cares? you will still be here next year saying the same old thing.
where are the pics?
garden? sheep? trench?
i still think you live in africa
PM's sink. I mean, really sink. They're heavy, and fuggeddabout a foot, we're talking feet or yards. And here's how a fast collapse could leave caches of PM's around: I know generally where some PM's are stashed but in a fast collapse, they're not gonna be worth any more to me than any other rocks. I'm not gonna care. In fact after a fast collapse, no one's gonna care about PM's for a long time, probably centuries. For almost all of time, gold was only useful to make pretty trinkets (still not a patch on most colorful bird feathers or Nature's more common crystals) and silver had some use, as a germicide but few knew it, so it was relegated to pretty-trinket use also. Fast or slow, the collapse will leave a lot of forgotten stuff. Remember the old Sarco ads in Shotgun News? "We were digging around in our warehouse and found these, forgotten since the 1950s...."
As for living underground, if you can stomach it, watch an episode of the Telly Tubbies. Now, the 'Tubbies suck and creep me out, but lookit their house. That's a very good basic idea of how to build an earth house. Maybe it's an effort to inculcate in Brit kids an idea of how they'll be living once 90% of the people are gone and oil's only a memory?
I'm seriously considering building a sandbag igloo, those Nadir Khalili - Hesperia California website pictures sure look inspiring enough to motivate a poor guy like me to do it. If the building code is lenient to non-existent, this would be one option I would look at.
Why igloo shape? Well, for one, vertical / horizontal straight lines rarely exist in nature, so their configuration in the boonies catches the eye. The rounded shape blends right in, seen from the air or the ground. Ever seen a square hill or tree? Me neither.
Highly insulated for weather extremes, as long as you put a watertight skin like plaster on the bags, it should last a while.
Materials are easy to find (sand bag, barbed wire) and easy to transport. If your land has dirt (and most places do, lol), you can build this on your own without anyone else poking their heads into your business.
Frost will push up buried things. Just ask any midwest farmer who has to pick rocks out of his field anew every year.
The quickest underground dwelling (if you're digging by hand) is to dig into the side of a hill and then pile what you dig out up onto a post supported roof. More bang-for-the-buck in physical effort terms. Half the digging and twice as much underground space gain.
If you haven't sent Jim money lately, today you can redeem yourself by doing so.
Maybe the Roman Dad didn't tell the Roman Son Dude because he didn't want the ex-wife to benefit from his hard work. ; )
Idaho Homesteader
sorry, but I think you are way off on this - how many stories do we see of people finding cash in donated shoes and sofas, stuff sold at garage sales, or hidden in houses after Grandma dies. The fact is, there is a certain portion of the population that dies without disclosing its hidden valuables. No evidence for slow or fast collapse, one way or the other.
942- where's my damn $20 you bastard?
234 and Les- okay, you are making sense. I might have over thought this one ( or is it under think? ).
Many years ago, (cant remember where), I remember reading an article that said Roman soldiers would cache their coins before a battle- if they came back they dug it up, if they didn't, well.....
Apparently they didnt trust their mates not to steal it if they left it lying about.
AKM.
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