Relocation
is one of those hotly debated subjects that gets a lot more attention than it deserves. In simple terms, there are as many perfect places as there are different scenarios for disaster or disruption. I’m just as guilty of highlighting relocation spots as the next writer, but if backed into a corner I’ll admit some flexibility. If you stay out of the highly congested urban areas almost anyplace is good if it fits your fears. I don’t know why anyone thinks huge cities are a good place to live. They’ve been congested, polluted and crime infested for decade upon decade. It isn’t like they have a great record. And in the future during Energy Down
the transportation problem will see that they are one of the first areas to see famine. And of course you can throw in pestilence
as the result of crowding. Any illusionary pay advantage you get from the big city is swallowed by high cost of living and the increased risk to your health. Only a select few will be able to survive in the rubble of the cities. *
I worry most about low cost of living and low population density ( surrounded by NO population density as a buffer ). But as a trade off there is no agriculture potential. Those who care more about water and fertile soil live in populated areas. There is always trade offs. Even the very few “perfect” locations suffer from the trade off of high cost of acquisition. One of the few “perfect” locations insofar as nuclear fallout in the 1970’s was the Klamath River
area in Oregon and the border area in West Texas. Oregon had one type of employment and that raising an illegal plant. And as an added minus the interest in the region by fleeing wealthy urbanites caused property prices to skyrocket ( from which they never recovered from, in my opinion ). West Texas is a wonderfully sparse region where you can pick up land for just a few hundred bucks an acre. But there are fewer jobs there than falling inches of rain. Trade offs. Idaho is a beautiful area, has great secluded agricultural areas, and has no employment, sees a bit higher taxes and is a target for all the surrounding metro areas ( “hey, everybody! I heard all the survivalists
live in Idaho. Who’s with me?” No thought is given to the lack of rations for a large crowd, but it is a mob, and as a rule they aren’t too bright ). The West is full of great secluded areas to hide in to weather the collapse, but outside ranching has little of value to keep you alive. The East is an overcrowded craphole, but the reason for that is this is where the crops grow. *
If you are worried about Gore Warming
, nothing is good about living on the coast. If you are worreid about the next New Madrid earthquake
, most of the rural area of the East is off limits. If you worry about Yellowstone you can only find a suitable place in a narrow stretch sandwiched between that and the overpopulated west coast. No area is perfect. All areas, even Idaho, are trade-offs. If you live in a region that protects you against your perceived threats, you are where you want to be. Except a huge metro area, as I’ve said. About the only area I would unequivocally call unsuitable for human life- now also but especially in the future. Take all I say about the perfect survival area with a grain of salt. My area might not be your area. That said, I’m still looking for cult members to move to Elko and support me in gold and harem members, and come the collapse to become my cannon fodder as we conquer the Great Basin. Don’t say no now, just think about it a little.END FUNDAMENTALS-MORE BLATHER BELOW
Not a whole lot new or exciting going on here. Same old crap. It’s getting a bit strenuous waiting for the collapse
. Stop teasing us with middle east riots of melting nuclear reactors. Just blow a gasket and rain pieces of the good ship USS OilAge into the harbor already. I can almost understand the attraction of thinking the Mayans
were right and we only have a year and half left to have to listen to Clinton move her rancid fish lips on any and all occasions. I said almost. The Mayan astrologists could have just been eaten by starving peasant villagers before they finished the calendar. *
Nobody has even been so silly as to say something stupid so I could hector and verbally abuse them. Kunstler
did a great job bringing us up to date of Peak Oil, debunking the silly twats that insist we shall live off of bio-diesel or liquid coal. The same thing the Druid Dude keeps saying but the K Man is a lot less forgiving of stupidity and has fewer illusions of the crashes survivability. And is much wittier. Even Rawles has been circumvent in his posted articles. I’m at a low spot here, people. I have no one to hate. Dammit, I’m going through withdrawals here. I’m getting weaker. Melting.*
A hearty hi-ho and thanks butt-loads to all the minions who helped visualize the design for the coming Earth Tube for the Bison Compound. I’m hoping this will go a long way insulating myself from any killing cold come fuel shortages. I’m only able to dig one foot a day, rather than my hoped for three. By the time I get home from working and pedaling I’m simply dead tired and weak. I tried digging more, but even one foot is still a lot of work I have to force myself to finish. So, instead of next month I won’t finish til this summer. Bummer. But, all good things to those that persevere. Be good, my minions. And give some thought to becoming a cult member.
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9 comments:
I'm thinking about another "Perfect Retreat" site, but I'm still doing research. How about Southeast Coastal Alaska, along the B.C border?. Not on any Islands, of course, but a few miles inland from the Coast? Plenty of water, wood, fish and game, and Alaska Gun Laws. Close enough for a LifeFlight while our so-called Civilization is up, yet far enough away that the Yuppie Hordes would die from Hypothermia while trying to work their way up the Coast. I'd go inland a few miles, just in case the Ring of Fire Collapses and 100 foot Tsunamis come ashore, but that should destroy all those Yuppie Speedboats sitting in the Vancouver Yacht Clubs. Yeah, there's no jobs,and tons of cold, wet, rainy weather and getting Oil Age Plastic supplies is expensive (no Wally Worlds around), and then there will be the TEOTWAWKI Vikings to deal with, not to mention Mutant Grizzlies, but it'd sure beat the heck out of holding up in Mid-Town Manhattan. Any thoughts or info out there on why this would be a Bad Idea?
Jim, it might be worth using some of your cash horde to rent a bobcat with a small backhoe on it. You should be able to do all of your digging in one day. It's so much fun you might find yourself digging another storage pit.
The east coast is enormous. There is a lot more low population areas you would expect. It is not a completely lost cause: just mostly.
You, the Lord of the Stewpot, should see the one obvious adantage to urban areas. There is a lot of people for your.... LOL.
I keep ribbing you about Elko, figured it would piss ya off eventually...
Seriously, isn't employment tuff there also ?
There's also that winter thing and the lack of fuel for heating. You do have the right idea about the convective system, tho as you are designing, it will only work for summer cooling. Must be a loop to use for heat, by storing summer heat in the ground for moderation during winter.
You might want to consider chickens. I've "considered" them as in, had 16 of 'em land in my lap, and frantically built a decent coop for them, read and read and read and joined Backyard Chickens (site) and learned what they need etc., and now well, I have a flock of 16 I just keep in a large coop all the time, am going to sell 6 of them in a couple of days so I'll have 10 of which one will be a goofy ol' game rooster who lost an eye in a fight, and a bunch of hens that are game crosses, maybe 1-2 pure games in there.
I recommend "game" chickens, called game crosses, Old English Game, Hatch, etc. Not because I'm big on chicken fighting but because they're tough, resilient, disease resistant, good moms, roosters are good defenders of their hens (while not being aggressive to humans generally, your average Rhode Island Red is more likely to mess you up) and good layers.
Living on a teeny budget, it's hard to make yourself buy eggs, and when you do, it's pale store eggs, not all that great. Having a half dozen eggs appear each makes sure you get your eggs. And you need 'em, Skinny.
You feed them on table scraps, layer pellets (buy at feed store) stuff you gather, and out where you are, you can make a grasshopper-gatherer and could feed your birds on those almost alone. There are that many grasshoppers out there, and you can collect 'em by the bushel with a glorified wide butterfly net.
With only about 8 producing birds, I've got eggs to feed myself and enough to sell to pay for the layer pellets.
They'll also lure Mr. Coyote in, you shoot him because he's harassing your livestock, and you've got 50lbs or so of meat for chicken feed or the table depending on age of the dog, and a nice skin to make coat-ruffs out of etc.
Chickens FTW
Spud,
Jim's system will work in the winter to keep the inside of his trailer at least closer to the underground temperature of the pipe (often ~55 degrees). If you follow his posts, the wintertime temp in his place often gets down near freezing. The warmer air would still rise into the dwelling and the cooler air would go down into the pipe.
You are right that the pipe system does not work for heat if your dwelling is warmer than the underground temperature. If you heat the dwelling to some higher temperature than the underground temp, the pipe would not circulate much air at all.
rancid fish lips--- LOL
Melancholy is strictly forbidden! An emergency shipment of mood altering drugs (coffee and bribery materials...err I mean chocs for #4) will be snt immediately!
that's circumspect, DA
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