A minion asked a few questions on family, divorce, single after the apocalypse
and I thought I’d give a crack at it for an article. First off, being a single male now in the current economic climate is usually akin to a semi-death sentence of financial servitude. You are just there to employ social workers
and support the ex-wife. You are a walking wallet and no more. After the collapse, for all the bad that will happen, at least the money economy 
will be dead. Even going back to paying the kings 20% in crops is a far better tax deal than the current minimum tax of a third and usually closer to half ( for the normal wage earner, including all the hidden taxes on products ) upwards to 80%+ for the divorced male. I know exactly how much extra income it takes to raise a child, and it sure ain’t close to what child support is. You are paying ex-wife support
, not child support. NOW, today, you are treated as a worthless scumbag. Your chances of remarrying any quality spouse is pretty low. You are now poor and damaged goods. After a collapse, assuming we all live and go about rebuilding, then establish law and order after the collapse phase ( it may seem like a permanent anarchy will be loosed upon the land, but eventually order is always restored- that is just how we go about our affairs ), you then enter a much saner world. Divorce is not allowed as the family unit is ALL that there is for welfare and a safety net. Death results in swift remarriage, for that simple fact. Don’t listen to the total crap spouted by the femiNazi
carpet lickers. Men need women and women need men and everyone needs family. You give up something and gain something in return, it isn’t mass oppression by a male domination. Oil surplus allowed us the illusion of all being beholden to and needing no one, but we just traded family dependence for oil ( and hence those that control the oil ) dependence. You can have your testicles back after the apocalypse. You will be a laboring productive member of society again, not just a walking wallet. *
That is the good news. Here is the bad news. If your children are taken away too far, which in the future might mean just a state or two away if not less, you will never see them again. This isn’t Lord Of The Rings
where you can go on a mighty quest, battling orgs and demons on the way, and reclaim a treasure. After the US splinters and fragments, there are two very real possibilities. One, your kids are living in a different country or kingdom
and you can’t cross over to them. And if you try odds are excellent that you will be killed or enslaved on the way. Remember the tales of the white explorers going into the interior of Africa with a literal train of native porters? The reason they needed dozens to scores of natives was that, 1) the tetse fly or some damn thing killed all pack animals, and 2) that was a lawless region where you could easily get killed. You can’t just take hundreds of pounds of supplies with you as you walk across the country. A animal train attracts armed attention and you can’t carry enough on your back. Two, even if you make it against all odds, they could very likely already be dead from the initial break down. My divorce was pretty rough just from the lifestyle upheaval, but it was nothing compared to having to say goodbye to my children. My son and I didn’t start out really close ( we are extremely close now ) just because he was born into the upheaval and I was being a selfish bastard and didn’t dedicate myself to his first year. But my daughter, my first born, was the world to me. Daddies little girl
. We never had daycare, one of us was always taking care of her as the other worked. I was very close to my daughter and it tore me up when her mother took her away the first time to move across the country. In a way it was good, since after that I kept moving after them and spending as much quality time as I could with both of them. I knew it could always end again.*
I did that until their early teens and since then we’ve stayed apart, mostly because of economics. But the thing is, I had already said my goodbyes, and I had already done all I could to enjoy the short time with them as I had. Your heart can only be broken once, and while I’m a mean bastard, the kids are my soft spot as it is for most parents. If something happened tomorrow and I could never see them again I would be very sad. But I already said my goodbyes. Crap, I’m getting emotional just writing about it. Make your moments count now, because you might never see them again. It is that simple. You can’t wish away reality on this. There will be no second chances
. I don’t write much on this, losing your kids in the apocalypse
. Not because I’m callus or uncaring but because it is a bit of a painful subject. I probably won’t bring it up again. And just to make it all the more painful, I guess all fathers have to lose their daughters when they come of age. It’s probably inevitable. I wish I’d figured that one out before I had my baby girl who was now a women come visit me. Painful all over again. Thanks for sharing that one, you bastards. Okay, let’s move on from there.*
How do you like your friendly neighborhood banker now? Your favorite commie President? The CEO of your favorite corporation? All those foul whores that are willing to crash the system because of their greed, and your children will be some of the victims. It’s okay when they suck away a third of your life, that is just the way the cookie crumbles. But your children are also one of their targets.
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15 comments:
I am always flabbergasted at what you spew towards your ex. As I understand how someone could get gouged:
I never hear about the men that seem to think they are God's of some sort. I know of this couple that has divorced. The divorce was totally the man's idea. In the man's head he thinks he can hand out justice and control the ex by withholding the child support. She finally handed it over to child support to collect out of his pay. Now he wants to talk about finances. Seems the gal he is shacked up with is not happy about it "BUT SHE LOVES HIM" so she thinks she will be happy with him if he wasn't being so mistreated.
He is a nare-do-well, when he worked at the pizza place he drank the whole time he was there. The ex's parents had to bale them out of all sorts of financial problems. Now he works for the transit system as part time and he has been there for quite sometime with no advancement to full time statis.
He would keep the child support and take his new gal to Vegas. If there is a family function on his new gal's side and it is his time to have the kids they don't take them they palm them off on his parents. Dig this he put on his phone id for his ex the name WHORE. The one kid came home and asked what that meant.
I personally think the idiot is a malfunctioning piece of crap.
So I believe that divorce sure causes problems and most of it is emotional. No one ever gets over it.
My daughter (and one and only child) was two when divorce time came. I knew that she would be used against me and/or just disappear out of my life if her mother had sole custody. Therefore, I fought back and made her mom (with the help of some very talented legal help) choose between sharing custody or losing custody. After some initial disbelief (on mom’s and her attorney’s part) that we could get the courts to agree to something in our county that had not occurred up to that time (common now) they relented.
You never hear people complain about not spending enough time at the office – I spent the next 18 years working below my earning potential so that I could spend more time with her. It was well worth it! The only problem with relationships with adult daughters is that they are female and thus wired differently. Although it may be muted somewhat (in comparison to males they know they can control with sex) they will still try to tell you what to do and will be incapable of seeing it ‘your way’. Be kind and be firm.
Hey Dakin, I do believe your last 2 posts are the best you have ever done! You feeling ok buddy?
YEARS ago, we're talking early 2000s, I was living in Southern California, I was on the freeway one day looking at one of the typical Older White Guys in A Pickup With A Camper On It, and wondered: Why do we whities have all these Apocalypse-fabulous rigs? How come I never see, for instance, Viet folks running around with these, or Cambodians? Hell, *they* have really been through upheavals lately. Then the thought wheels started turning and it's a testament to my multi-tasking abilities that I could think about this while driving on a SoCal freeway. (I use Viets and Cambodians as examples because I spent years working with them as co-workers and knew them to be really solid, family oriented people even after the hell they'd gone through)
But I realized that we whites had been under extreme pressures to break up the family and make each individual a spending, workaholic, atomized little machine in a battle of wallet against wallet, for several generations now.
And this explains everything from our propensity for campers, SUVs, survivalist thinking, SF stories like Farnam's Freehold, and most especially for American families to resemble explosions; as soon we reach 18 there's almost an imperative to leave and get as far away as possible. I never saw my Mom after age 18, and I hardly saw my Dad again. 2 of my siblings, I've not seen in person and hardly communicated with, since age 18. The other 2, minimal contact and basically none for 5 years and more in the case of one. This is not unusual.
Americans' family life in general (there *are* a few exceptions) is already at the Mad Max level, a scorched, desert landscape with very few friendlies.
On taxes: Indeed the little guy pays most of them. Talk with your Subway sandwich-folder or the middle-aged lady stocking shelves at Safeway. They're paying about 25% just in tax off of their paycheck, then other deductions for other things they mostly never see again. Then add in 10% sales tax, bunch of other taxes like vehicle etc.
I'm with you on this one. I know what it is like to have your heart ripped out. Nothing has turned me against my government as much as their childsupport/legal system. I think of it as the 5 minutes that ruined my life. That lawyer alone cost me 500.00 a minute. Just to watch my guts ripped out.
My family destroyed through the later 60's and into the mid 80's. Alot of it had to do with SSI tied to COLA where for a time it went up faster then real inflation.
Also women at that time started running all branches of the family.
Males started becoming last hired and promoted in many areas outside of the Country CLub Set.
In spite of an outstanding academic record have had to work at skilled trades most of my life.
Came to an almost certain Divorce in the mid 90's. Told the wife I would either move out of the USA or get a new Identity like and illegal alien, or she could accept a reasonable child support offer and a proportion of W2 from income. Some very angry Feminists told the wife I had to be destroyed to teach me a lesson. But how would she get a cent then?
She backs down. Since 911 economy has been getting worse for everyone, not just people who look like Jim.
I told prominant PHD Now Member. National Organization of Women. More accurately Gay and Bi Women and straight women from the Country club set that not all women are negative man haters.
Lucky for me I know work in a bank hired by a normal and decent women who was about to retire and could not have her career ended by hiring someone non PC and male.
The wife now is worred that SSI, good jobs and security are going away. Now in my 50's she is worrying that she could be replaced in more ways then one.....
Family wise, the never married no kids segment of the population, while small, is the fastest growing segment of our population.
Prepping's easy for me, 7 bucks worth of oatmeal at Costco will feed me breakfast for 4 months. 5.7¢ per serving or something like that. One person doesn't leave a big foot print, it's easy enough to hide in plain sight.
jim this artical realy hits home as a father of 3, 2 girls and a son .1 is grown living with her grand mother 2 with me. me and their mom divorced 12 years ago {she died 2 years ago]we hated each other . but when it came to the kids i was always there.even now you could call me anything bad and my ex mother in law would agree but if some one call me a bad father the old broad would rip them a new one.regardless of what happens in the future ive planned for my kids its MY JOB even if it means my death or stomping thier ass for their own good its what i will do.nature amazing isnt it. breed into man and beast.the 2 at home read your blog sometimes. they think your crazy but they have begun to question the statis qoa and my youngest now will tell you no bills, cash and paid for if she gets anything.Dont write about kids anymore makes us cold hard asses turn to mush. gary in bama
I'm never going to have kids or get married, not after all the horror stories I hear.
Do you tell your kids to get ready? Get them the hell out of FL if you can.
Thinking about this makes a lot think about breaking the law... but the threat of life in he penn is always there.
OOO, this hit a nerve. I lose my only kid too - she's a type-one diabetic and I haven't read anyone who can talk about countertop insulin production. She's also aware of these issues and is scared as hell.
Number Four
Spot on my friend...Marriage strike...google it. It is financial suicide for a man to get married in the USA. The law needs to be changed as it has distroyed the American family while making lawyers rich. Just look at the divorce rate, over 70% of all divorces are filed by the wife. Why - the big pay off - of course. The entire system is designed to field strip you forever. A woman can breach a marriage contract at anytime and there is nothing you can do about it except get your a$$ handed to you by the legal system. I saw a bumper sticker once that said "Why get married? Just find a woman you hate and give her your house!" Truer words have never been printed. Don't forget you still get to make the payments on that house you do not live in for 20 or 30 years plus alimony and child support (so she can live the life she is "accustomed to") - you know the one you PAID for - for YEARS ALREADY!! To all you young guys out there, do not get married and do not have kids in the USA. It will be the biggest mistake you will EVER make. Leave the USA and marry in another country and do not bring your bride back here. Divorce % for foreign bride is 12% while it is over 60% here. If I had known what would happened to me, I would have never married. Take it from me, I write those checks every 30 days and will until I die or she does! Alimony is forever! What do I have to show for all my hard work for all these years? No wife, almost never see my children and no money, she gets almost all of it and if I do not pay I go to JAIL! Great deal huh? And before anyone flames me about "what did I do to her", the answer is nothing. I loved her and the kids. Worked my a** off for them, nice house, nice cars, a good life. She ran off with an "old flame" after reconnecting on the internet!! It only lasted for 2 years before he dumped her but she doesn't care, she was just off to the next boyfriend. She has no worries because she gets paid forever by ME - the sucker. Why do you think woman push you so hard to commit and get married? They are not stupid, they talk about how to do this to men ALL the time. Anyway, guys, you have been warned!!!
Divorce is an important function in today's society. It employes judges, attorneys, mediators, mental health,Social workers, Child support enforcement, excreta....
Perhaps the most important function and the primary reason divorce is encouraged today, is to create more middle class dependency on society.
My point is the more money that is taken from you to pay for divorce, the less money you will have to invest in your future.
After your future is spent to support the system, you become needy of the same system that enslaved you.
During the most productive years of your life, your labors were lost to slavery.
I have spent more money on child support than I have spent on my house and land. And I still owe nearly 100 grand at 10 percent interest. The interest alone is 1000 per month.
Number Four, look into The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Starvation Treatment of Diabetes, by
Lewis Webb Hill and Rena S. Eckman
I would also check Rawles' Survival Blog for info as well as just doing a net search. Evidently, no refridgeration is not a sure death sentence for diabetics.
Hey Jim,
Thanks a lot for the response, I'm going to believe you were responding to me and my query. I hear you! To be perhaps a little to honest, I'm hoping for a collapse, just to shake the boat, and possible grab my daughter as it tips over. But, your absolutely right, it's saying goodbye, and it breaks my heart, to the point - I won't write what I'm thinking, but I really wish the best for my ex, just to try and make my daughters life better. I suppose if she's happy, by daughter will be. I don't have the final papers yet, so I don't know how bad I'm going to get screwed, but at this point - I'm really numb to it. But, I'm sure I can focus my hatred on bad government. ha ha Yes, Yes, I'm become a bad government correcting superhero!
Anyways, Thanks again for your insight, it does help!
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