Wednesday, June 29, 2011

genocide 101

GENOCIDE 101


A loyal minion made a statement, that while technically correct in one aspect, was misleading and must be analyzed, pondered, deconstructed and in general talked about far too much to satisfy my sense of fair play and enhance my paralyzing feelings of impending doom. And, while we are on that subject-never fear, we shall return to the original teaser before you nod off- lately I’ve been reading more than a few older books that are simply astounding me. Not because they are the standard “change human nature at the same time you elect a leader actually worth a crap who isn’t controlled by the banking cartel and watch as all monied interests gleefully give up all their wealth and power and then by gum we’ll all be saved from the impending disaster” type of drivel that is pretty much the only thing out there ( Matt Savinar is about the only exception I can recall, and that forces me to conclude that out of all the scumbag whore puke face lawyers out there, at least one is a human being ), but because contrasting the general consensus of reality then to actually reality now, a short five years later, is astounding. “The Upside Of Down”, “The End Of Oil”, even “The End Of Fossil Energy” and “Crossing The Rubicon”, all look about in wonderment at data from 2005 and before and admit they know Peak Oil is coming along but they just don’t know when ( hint- it happened as there books were being printed in 2005 ). They also admit ethanol might slightly effect food prices ( reality check-triple or quadruple price increases on food, and that is before this years bad weather in counted in ), but nuclear power ( Japan, Nebraska ), breeder reactors ( only two or three in the world today, more experimental than practical ) or hydrogen, or a few other magic bullets will help us ease into transition. This actually ties into today’s article, but for now just keep in mind that all the experts were really friggin overly optimistic about ONLY five years. Imagine how bad their twenty year forecast is going to be.

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Afore mentioned minion stated, in our discussion on gunpowder and power, that without the Whites using repeating rifles the Indians might have won. I won’t dispute that because as Billy Bad Ass as the pioneers were, the natives were a lot tougher and better at asymmetrical warfare. They knew the terrain, they grew up living in nature and could use it to their advantage. On a small unit tactical level, the Indians were usually better fighters. Most indigenous non-farmers are, comparatively speaking. And, I get the casual reference to Back East Manufacturing. The Indians had no way to stop the railroads bringing supplies to the settled/being settled areas. Even if the repeating rifle had never evolved and muzzle loaders were the dominant military arm, the steady supply of them and their users from the railroads would have killed off the Indians.

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So, manufacturing rather than the rifle itself defeated the Indians. Up to a certain point. It wasn’t disease, because that had been a factor for two hundred years already. And, while wholesale slaughter of the buffalo wiping out the food source of the Indians didn’t help matters any ( the equivalent of salting all the fields of Carthage ), it only finished the Indians off- it wasn’t the primary strategy that weakened them up to that point. The Indians were doomed from the start. Not because of disease, or our superior weaponry ( our laissez-faire capitalism ensured most weapons were sold to them in desired quantities, usually ), the far better technology, farming or our population explosion. All those things together killed them, but they were all made possible by the Old World way of doing business. Instead of living sustainably off the land as the Indians did, the new arrivals mined the land. Instead of living off the interest from the sun, they started digging into the principle. This is the underlying source of all our wealth on this continent, we are miners. And yet, all those wonderful books out there killing trees base their whole strategy of survival on living sustainably. The same strategy that doomed the Indians.

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Do you see the problem yet? Energy superiority, now oil but throughout all of human history the last ten thousand years in the form of surplus food, decides the victor in conflict ( all things being equal ). Whites cut down the forests and dammed the rivers and dug the coal that allowed their population to soar in crowded urban environments ( causing the continuation of Old World diseases that cut down the Indian populations ), which put pressure on western expansion and etc. Energy surplus in the form of NON-sustainable practices won them a continent. Backwoods Home Magazine, permaculture practitioners, all the advocates of living close to the land, raising food sustainably, harmonizing your farming to Mother Nature, all of that is great, and the only way to live forever without damaging the land. But guess what? It is not a sound strategy outside of a vacuum because the guy next door will practice Farming/Energy Production Mining, non-sustainable and energy superior to you. And will defeat you. You can have all the cute plastic guns you want, and they will prevail tactically, but big picture, strategy wise, you’ve already lost the war. As soon as your stockpile is gone, surplus energy prevails.

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I don’t bring this up to disparage farming. Not at all. Farming is a winning strategy as it creates surplus energy ( early Roman wheat production produced a 12 to 1 Energy Return On Investment, even better than a lot of our marginal fossil fuel production today which can be as low as 7 to 1 for deep water rigs or even lower for Canadian tar sands ). Sustainable farming, however, creates less of a return on investment. The surplus is being returned to the soil for perpetual health. If you mine the soil instead, steal from its future fertility, you create a surplus. Surplus energy wins. Get it? Even the Chinese example upholds this. They might have been able to keep their land producing century after century, but there was a hidden price. Non farmland was used for biomass harvesting, meat was nearly eliminated from most diets, regular famines dipped population low enough to keep pressure off depleting the soil, etc.

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A community wide, country wide strategy for basic survival is to gain an energy surplus. I don’t care that we are currently occupying the middle east to steal oil. That is keeping Americans alive ( any leader that wants to put us in an energy decrease situation, if there is an alternative, is dooming us to military defeat/genocide ). I just can’t stand the hypocrisy involved in selling that to the public. Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it is raining, don’t put lipstick on a pig and tell me that’s my date, and don’t sell me horse crap about democracy or Al Quida terrorists or whatever. Just call it what it is. We are stealing energy to survive. After the collapse, sustainability will be defeated by that quest by others for energy surplus. Be on the winning side.

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15 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is something that produces energy surplus AND is sustainable: Human and animal labor. Feed them x amount of calories and their labor will produce x times 10 additional amount of food (calories) than they consumed.

This is why slavery will come back in a big way. It's efficient and sustainable (ethics aside).

And who will be the future slaves? Not guys with semi-autos!

Anonymous said...

I am confused – if the collapse is a function of used up energy surplus then shouldn’t the sustainability team eventually win? Shouldn’t the Indians come back? It makes sense that the energy surplus team should ‘flare up’ (like a nova)and be able to overwhelm but once they die down (as they must) it would seem the sustainable crowd should come out on top (at least until some new energy surplus is found). Aside from slavery (as we never seem to run out of people) are you assuming that we will be able to come up with some new as yet undiscovered energy source?

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Anonymous said...

Whites overwhelmed the Indians in a number of ways:

Guns - You can shoot those peeny lead balls all day and never have to go and retrieve 'em and reuse 'em like arrows. In fact the Indians got guns themselves as quickly as they could, but still had to trade or steal ball and ammo from the whites.

Fecundity - Indians had a kid every 2-3 years as is the norm in hunter-gatherer societies. Whites popped out a kid a year, and families of 10 or 14 were not uncommon. It was the standard White procedure. Hell my mom did what all nice White wives did in the late 50s-early 60s and had a kid a year, there were "only" 5 of us since one miscarried but she did her best.

Industry/earth mining - Whites indeed mined the earth, mined coal and iron to make the railroads, cut down whole forests, produced surpluses so they could fight the Indians through the winter, and seldom suffered from lack of food and fodder.

Just plain nasty tricks - The buffalo were systematically exterminated because they were the Indians' food. Disease kept sweeping through Indian populations and some of it was intentionally spread. Indians were essentially hunted for sport in many places. They were rounded up into reservations and systematically starved. Their children were taken from them and put into "Indian schools" where as much as possible, Indian ways were brainwashed out of them.

This is par for the course with any two populations of different characteristics competing over land etc. In Japan, whites, known as Ainu, got pushed way up into the far Northern region of Hokkaido and are considered quaint primitive people to this day.

Brair Rabbit said...

Is there a winning side?

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We are stealing energy to survive. After the collapse, sustainability will be defeated by that quest by others for energy surplus. Be on the winning side.
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Are you saying prepare to raid? I thought you were a "waiter" = hide and wait?

I don't think there's a winning side! Only a "slightly less than a total loser" side...

So it's a "good idea" for the US to keep raiding and when there's nothing left to raid, hopefully, they (the raided) will be too weak to get even?

WTF? Oh well, at least most of the time you make sense!

James m Dakin said...

729, you kind of answered 755's ( and b-rabbits )question. Slavery is one very good surplus tool. As is going on the offensive and taking over all the sustainable farms.
947- thanks, I forgot about the "fighting through winter" aspect.

Spud said...

Basically my point was that a bow could shoot much faster than a muzzle loader. Therefore in the beginning the Indians had the advantage. Although you are correct that the industrial revolution and an unending supply of goods/people was ultimately too much for the natives.
Native americans were on the downside of a collapse of their own before we even showed on the scene. A thousand years before there was a huge civilization which collapsed because they based their livelihood on the monoculture of corn. They depleted their soil which caused a collapse.

Technically the Indians have returned, as slaves. Only now we call them Mexicans, without whom we would starve for lack of farm labor.

The major reason the Indian went to the gun is because it was held in high esteem as Magical Power. Had they kept with the bow, things might well have progressed at a slower, yet inevitable rate.
You are most certainly right James,manufacturing and industry doomed the natives.
For the future though, the bow is sustainable. Guns are not, over the long haul without an industrial base.
I've got both of those bases covered in my arsenal, In my very humble opinion so should you.

James m Dakin said...

Spud-I would call flintlocks sustainable unless metalworking becomes impossible from lack of fuel. Trusting to the bow, while reasonable, does worry me because you might be at a disadvantage to a gun. Unless you are just talking hunting. Not trying to argue with you, but expressing my reservations.

Anonymous said...

"Kill the buffalo and you kill the Indians"-General Philip H. Sheridan 1866 shortly after that became policy the Indians were at a loss for how to feed themselves and were confined to reservations after becoming dependant on government aid. The lost because they had no concept that such a thing could be done, otherwise they would have responded differently and buffalo hunters would have been high value targets.

Best,
Dan

Spud said...

I would say that both are going to be a useful tool.
Flintlocks are a viable weapon for the survivor as long as sulfur is available locally. However transportation of raw material over long distance may not happen again within our lifetime. Seems to me that raw material for black powder could be found near Elko. One of the three parts comes out of your body every day lol.

Spud said...

I believe that sometime in the past, I have stated: Save your bullets for fighting, use your bow for eating.

So long as guns are there, leave the bow at home.

Unless the bow's all ya got...

vlad said...

(Scenario.) I had to unass the area very suddenly on my bicycle with 30-06 and 100 rounds, Marlin 22 bolt rifle, 2K rounds of subsonic, and a fishing kit. I had to leave all stored foods. I will eat only fish, and the meat and fat of animals large and small. How long can I hope to stay healthy?
http://www.ergo-log.com/meatonly.html
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm
http://tinyurl.com/3hn4sd9

Anonymous said...

"I would say that both are going to be a useful tool.
Flintlocks are a viable weapon for the survivor as long as sulfur is available locally. However transportation of raw material over long distance may not happen again within our lifetime. Seems to me that raw material for black powder could be found near Elko. One of the three parts comes out of your body every day lol."

My thoughts exactly spud! The nitrates as others have pointed out can be produced with readily available materials (Though I haven't researched the procedure or potential difficulties with this process?) The charcoal is easy, flints can be found and knapped, and at the worst, sulfur will have to be transported, likely by horseback\wagon.

One might consider learning the trade of primitive blacksmith? I know it's a lot to take on, but think of how useful of a post collapse skill a gunmaker would be?

And I agree, primitive bowmaking would be a very good skill to have, as this would be far easier to produce than to keep a gun in service.

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James m Dakin said...

Brass-done, whore boy deleted. Usually I can spot that kind of crap, I guess they are getting smarter. Thanks.