A P.O.W. BY ANY OTHER NAME
A minion finished my thoughts the other day, mentioning that slaves would be included as a “surplus energy” strategy. I’m sure I would have thought of that in a week or two and I would have been putting my hand up in the air and waving my arm back and forth and indiscreetly clearing my throat and perhaps even throwing in a “Mr. Kotta” in a Brooklyn accent, and you all would have given me a nasty look and I would have just slunk away instead of trying to explain to you that I finally finished my thought so it’s a good thing said minion stepped up to the plate and saved me from myself. So, besides being a little smarter than a tree hugger, because while its plenty nice to give
Gaia
a big wet sloppy kiss I don’t think we should get carried away with it because she is a nasty whore, killing off any surplus population on a whim like wiping out all those cute ol
Bambi’s 
just to create an equilibrium but if I bring it up I’m a vile monster, don’t friggin practice
permaculture
to the exclusion of protecting yourself against anti- sustainable marauders, and think about owning a few slaves.
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Oops. That is
politically incorrect
. And who has told us that we shouldn’t bring this up, talk about it, or should get a brain wipe for doing so? The PC Police, liberal yuppie scum sucking commie pukes. The same ones that leech off the taxpayer tit. The tax collector that runs the federal government. The same government that used to say, hey, no problem dudes, a black man isn’t counted as a full human, so go ahead and keep them and slaves but do us a solid and keep that stuff down south. And the same government that then said, oops, our bad dawg, since you want to be independent of our rule and think that a state can voluntarily leave a union it voluntarily joined, now we have to change our views on slavery after all and call foul. And the same government that then left the blacks alone to be discriminated against down south, using the excuse of “state laws”, the same laws it choose to supersede earlier for the War Of Gottdamn Yankee Puke Aggression. We love you, fight the Brits for us and you can keep slaves. We hate you, we’ll make your laws for you, slaves are not allowed. We love you, do as you please with the blacks as long as we don’t get blamed. My God, the federal government is like a damn women, can’t make up their damn mind. My point is NOT that slavery is okay, just that when folks preach against it they usually have another agenda. And if slavery had benefited them, it would have been approved.
Slavery
has been used as an excuse to invade and enslave economically the South for 150 years. No one says, you can’t usurp states rights. No, all they say is “ends justify the means”. And, before you say slavery is much worse than the feds taking all the power for themselves, are you talking about the same government that was busy in a
war of genocide
against the Indians before and after the Civil War?
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So please don’t preach against slavery as a holier than thou position. I don’t like slavery, I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be one, but it is normal throughout history and will be again. Morality takes a very long nap as soon as someone wants to eat or get wealthy. People are not “more enlightened” now, they just got to trade in human slaves for petroleum slaves ( my guess, for less than 150-160 years ). People are asshats, period. The best you can do is join a tribe that collectively treats others outside the group badly, and spares you if you join in the fun with them. It is natures way to slowly starve
Bambi
populations when they become overpopulated, and it is in human nature to exploit their own race to survive. But, fine, I can see the tears welling up in your eyes. You are about to get all
butt hurt
and spew last nights dinner. Fine. Tell you what I’m going to do. We shall call our slaves P.O.W.’s. Or, if there are no handy wars going on, we’ll call them criminals that must perform manual labor. Ooooh! Don’t you feel so much better now? We’re all just and moral and out-friggin-standing wonderful human beings. Baby Jesus will kiss our ass and church going women will swoon at our feet. And speaking of those fine church folk, if it was their tribe doing this, they would be punishing blasphemy and cursing and “loose morals” to provide their slaves. No one is better than anyone else at this crap, some just have much better
propaganda
.
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But you know what? I don’t think you should abolish slavery because it’s the right thing to do. I think you should abolish it as a winning strategy. If you release POW’s, or offer them citizenship, you will have an advantage over the enemy. If he refuses to release your soldiers from slavery, you have an excuse to smite him. If you take sensible precautions to avoid spies, and offer something like a work-for-citizenship ( you really want to get them motivated? Offer your women an incentive to marry the
POW’s
, such as free land or something, and the enemy will be looking at opportunities to surrender ), you won’t be invading foreign lands but liberating them. Your war is half won before it starts. Limited slavery, with realistic options for escaping the yoke, works for you better than just beating them like cattle and working them to death. It creates motivation based on the carrot rather than the stick. And believe me, you’ll probably be the only one around being that “enlightened”.
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7 comments:
Jim you have stated that 4 years to zero oil imports.IF this model is valad{i think it is}you will see prison work gangs doing public service projects again nation wide.petty laws will be deemed prison time with service to provide manpower to the local and federal goverments projects.mabe even a change back to debter prison for the manpower.every goverment has a problem with poor unemployed workers in history and its never for the good of ruling class.better for the elite to return to work camps and prison labor to keep desenters under control.look at the history of countrys that have done this russia,china.france england,1900america had itand many more. the old saying history repeats its self will hold true.Isnt slavery just forced work without cominsation or consent. gary in bama
There is no ground where the Lord Bison fears to tread! That is why you are the Lord Bison. Only you would have the guts to discuss post-collapse slavery ethics.
I don't know if I would have much to add except that, since I am currently a 'wage slave', I can think of a few middle managers who would make fine candidates for my future "POW's".
Ooohhhh~!!!!
Thats an OP that I like.
The captured enemy are 'POW's'
They are working off their debt, but if they swear loyalty and join the militia they get the lands my team has just conquered.... And if they marry into my tribe or serve very well they get a bonus to their land (like water, trees, or the right to hunt on it).
By having fought against us (assuming we win of course) they loose everything, but by serving us they get a little something- and the better they serve the more they get... And because they would be on 'probation' (for life) they could be permanantly second class citizens/serfs/peons...
Hmmm. I wonder if this mode of slavery is why the US has the highest population of prisoners in the world.
Could it be THEY are the real collateral for our national debt? Think about how many people think the prisoners should be working at hard and/or dangerous labour, to 'repay society/victims'. How hard would it be to get public support to use prisoner labours to pay off the national debt???
Things to think about,
Thanks O' Jim of the flowing folicals.
-Grey
Well Jim, it seems you are a bit late... That ("salesman") guy from, "survival acres" has already covered this topic at least a year ago...
However, a fresh look at this old topic is always a good thing... So, thanks!
Of course we are all slaves right now! Slaves to the gov (via taxes) and slaves to the central banks (via ssn's = we are collateral for gov loans).
If consentual/co-operative, then yes, it's only natural to work for food. But if you GRAB folks and expect them to work, then it's a big mean chore.
You do bring up great points... freedom for loyalty... "liberation"...
You are very right about the semantics... Workers, not slaves. Freemen, not zombies. Liberation, not indentation.
I however, think that it's mostly unworkable, if, force is required, in the immediate post doom world!
What I think will work is brainwashing.
Why? Them dang fat uppity slaves will still REMEMBER their pre-doom "freedoms."
So, if "hard slavery" is your route to sustainability, then you'll need plenty of chains and padlocks! As well as guards.
I'm sure there will be no shortages of CRUEL Bastards, to administer the new "teachings" of the group. You could call it "orientation." ( North Korean style!) Or even "school" or "daily prayers."
It's sure is sadistfying to think of whipping those yuppy, flat-screen, suv, "doom-neighing" fat fucks into REAL work! But it's unlikely to happen, since even the dumbest fuck will see the advantages of community effort. And will probably band together to your slaves. (To their form of slavery!)
In the "nicer" context... Working for food will be the norm, and will simply be called, employment!
Since I have wheat and beans, I will be a King doling out cups of yummy salted gruel to my loyal workers! Nobody gave it to me! I earned it, and so must they.
Had they "seen the signs" they wouldn't be begging!
That 35 cents of food, will earn me ONE DAYS worth of labor! Hell man! That's a quarter more than Roman Soldiers got paid!
I am indeed a kind and generous master.
"Get to work fat boy, you shoulda bought years instead of minutes!"
I commented too soon! But hey, I always read you first!
Over at, http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/a-view-of-martial-law/
They talking about "neo-slavery" today too! They call it something else. They call it martial law.
Just to say... I'd rather be your slave for a cup of gruel. Than a gov slave for some soylent green or brown! (Look up soylent brown! It's also known as "turd burgers!") At least your honest! Your wise enough to be a good king!
Read you daily! Keep up the drivel!
MB- I covered this subject before. Perhaps I actually beat the other guy in timing? I'm too lazy to comb for it. Oooh, ooh, me first, me first!
How 'bout offering 'Indentured Servitude'? Sort of like, 'Public Service' but better...
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