Wednesday, August 31, 2011

four per mile

FOUR PER MILE


On August 25th, a day that might, given the state of the mainstream media and their eternal quest to find the most blatantly retarded factoid and shrill it up as actual news, go down in infamy as the day our good buddy and fellow brother blogger Creekmore tried to be all sly and pull a fast one on us. He was comparing the population figures per square mile of his neck of the woods, rural Tennessee where there are actually too few sheep to be nervous but where I think it has been reported that the faint tinkle of banjos have been heard, and happening to just casually, almost while seeming to pull the location out of thin air, mention the figures for Elko county, where not only are sheep very afraid when the bordellos run out of two for one coupons two days before payday, but where yours truly has domiciled. It seems that Tennessee is positively crawling with shifty eyed half-Yankees with something like 40 persons per square mile, while Elko county is four people per ( you thought this article was something about the gas mileage on my retired truck and my unadulterated love for bicycles, didn’t you? ).

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Okay, I might be off on the TN population figure. It might be more. I am pretty sure that most families have a few Yankees in their woodpile though, being a border state and all. His point was that his state had the resources necessary to take care of all those folks, so a low population density isn’t needed ( actually, the main point of the article seemed to be that east of the Mississippi has oodles of great retreat locations ). Hey, no argument here. If you have twenty three cousins all within a few miles of your holler, it might be crowded but they all have your back also. Well, not Uncle Ezekiel, he’s a bit of a loner since the UFO’s abducted him and probed him a mite long. But everyone else does. And, chances are there just have to be a few second or third cousins out there that are pretty hot, Daisy Duke like, not just HoverRound candidates. Remember, just not FIRST cousins. That’s where those banjo’s come from. There are plenty of great retreat locations, even back east. Even crowded ones. There are a certain amount of stupid places to be, like a huge metro area. Everything else is manageable with precautions. And every one of them must conform to your notions, not other writers. You are the one living there and staking your life on that decision. But of course, this is just like 9mm verses 45 or any other debate. We can’t leave it alone, we have to keep talking it to death. Hey, talking stuff to death is what you suckers pay me to do ( and I mean suckers as One Born Every Minute, not ghetto vernacular type suckers ). And, before I go on, 9mm is a limp wristed fag toy. I’ll allow it if you are using a suppressor for close in sentry removal ).

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For the last ten thousand years or so, farmers and herder/nomads have had a rivalry thing going on. Kind of like the Squids verses the Jarheads ( although, really, when one guy wears an orange juice squeezer on his head and the other has a broomstick up his ass, why is either feeling superior? ). They are from different worlds. So, no matter what I say, if you are inclined toward farming, that is the path you will take. I’m all jiggy with that, homeslice. You trade off, crowds for growing food. Nomads trade off no crowds for food on the hoof. Farmers can grow a huge surplus and buy a professional army. Nomads live sustainably off the land and control their population. And serve as their own army. Farmers are one bad period of weather away from famine. Nomads one hoof and mouth disease away from needing to kill the farmers ( going up against fixed defenses, not their strong point ) or die themselves. Neither is better, it just depends on what you prefer. But, keep something in mind.

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A huge land area desert county with sparse population will not be an attraction to surrounding urban areas. You won’t see too many folks trying to move there. After all, sage brush is not edible. Any mild weather farming area will be a magnet. But here is something even better. Not only will most of the current natives move out prior to the die-off, after that event you will have left a population of only several square miles per one person. Not four people per square mile currently, at least four square miles per person! This is exciting stuff, believe it or not. Not too many of us are capable of living completely alone. We need some kind of companionship and support network. But I’d rather be part of a few hundred person settlement than a few tens of thousands. There is more control of whatever political process is taking place. Your voice is heard, not ignored. Lacking anonymity, people usually act more decent.

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Most of the West is already pretty deserted, and those areas with population are only there because of a huge infrastructure that was built when oil was so abundant it was practically a nuisance, and labor was dirt cheap. Oil Down, people move the hell out of there. Again, you can’t eat sagebrush. For those that can hang in there, you have elbow room and all non-related neighbors. If you aren’t hung up on farming. Not a perfect plan, not much is given today’s circumstances. But great if you want to minimize people sharing your oxygen. Because arid regions will more easily withstand the die-off ( folks are leaving, not trying to get in ). Four square miles per person. Sure, it is crap land. But all yours and your nervous sheep.

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16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Population density is a tricky thing- it could be meaningful and it could be meaningless. If you live near a town of 5,000 people, most population density maps are not fine-grained enough and it will look like you are in a somewhat populated area. But... if you live four miles outside of that town on a lonely stretch of road, in a direction no one would ever want to travel in an emergency (e.g., toward the desert, away from other nearby towns), you are living in a very remote area. The density map is irrelevant.

It's still fun to look up some stats and determine that your team has more points than some other team. Go Team Elko!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of sheep, isn’t it time to spend some of that surplus on a boy and a girl sheep? A starter herd, so to speak. Oh wait, your chief of security moved back in. And your surplus funds turned into beer. Oh well. By the by, maybe the real argument isn’t 9mm vs .45 but wheel gun vs automatic. When we run out of smokeless and have to grow our own some of us are going to be wishing we had a revolver.

M.D. Creekmore said...

Okay, James here is what I said in my post:

"Unlike many areas in the west, Tennessee has an abundance of natural resources available to survivors, fertile soil and farm land, timber, coal, plenty of water, a long growing season, comparatively short winters, a multitude of eatable wild plants, and various wild game animals including white tail deer, elk, wild hog, black bear, beaver, rabbit, gray squirrel etc. And let’s not forget rivers and lakes with catfish, large and small mouth bass, sunfish and bull frogs to name a few.

Yes, Tennessee has a larger population than many western states with my area having a population density of 40 people per square mile compared to say, Elko County, Nevada with a population density of 3 people per square mile, but my area has many more resources available to support that population."

Actually, the 40 people per square mile figure is misleading as most of the population is centered in a small town and surrounded by mountains and hundreds of thousands od acres of forest. Outside town the population is 0 people per square mile in some places.

I did not mean to imply that Elko County, Nevada is a bad place for a retreat area, I considered moving there myself but the lack of resources finalised my decision to stay in Tennessee.

banjoplayingassholetroll said...

The 9mm will do the job just fine.

You're going to starve in Elko. Herding? Give me a facking break. Do you know anything about sheep or goats? I didn't think so.

Why do city folk think there is food in the country? That is pure fantasy. Most of the banjo folks are drawing a check, they ain't growin' a garden.

Producing food is the most......

Nevermind,you guys don't get it. Store wheat,blah blah blah....

Anonymous said...

Yep. Unless it's your kin playing the banjo you don't want to be there for longer than a visit. But I still love and respect the spirit of Johnny Rebel.

Another reason to avoid the Deep South is the state prisons. You do not ever, ever, ever, ever want to end up in a state pen in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana or Texas. Big-belly sheriffs like to send new bidness to their Warden cousins. Yankee transplants will want to make sure any crime they commit is a Federal Offense. Much better accommodations.

I'm only half kidding.

Anonymous said...

Bison, you ought to redo your figurin'.

Those people in your towns ain't goin' nowhere what with 2-3 gallons in their tank. 'Sides, no slots in the desert.
In the desert you got 1-2 people per 500 square miles.

Maybe, ain't no one countin'.

Mountain Rifleman

Anonymous said...

I don't care if your place has 40 or 4 people per acre.

What I worry about is how many people are around you.

In Tennessee, when things go south, they are surrounded by LOTS of people who all think they can head to the hills.

Remember the first rule of survival--stay away from crowds.

James m Dakin said...

MD-I hope this post was taken in a fun spirit. Not hatin on TN, I'd say your situation is much better than mine. The desert is a 80/20 place to retreat to ( you know, 20% of the cost ).

Anonymous said...

Extreme isolation in the high desert like Nevada or far west Texas has a great appeal to me too, but without a dependable water source you will soon be dead. There is water in these places but you need to know exactly where, like the injuns did.

I would want many, many barrels of water stored at my desert retreat for 'peace of mind'. A years worth would not be too much.

Isolation is better, but only if water is assured.

Spud said...

I'll take my chances here in central Floriduh. Even longer growing season, as in all freaking year round ! Lot's of edible native plants. Not to mention a good supply of long pork, dare they venture out to the jungle lol

James m Dakin said...

145-plenty of water here, compared to south Nevada and CA, AZ, etc. Of course, the streams/river might be 100 miles apart. NE Nevada is good pasture area because of our better rain. The local indians had horses and raided the Mohave tribes w/o horses, who were enslaved. Don't confuse low with high desert.

chinasyndrome said...

All you'all are wearing me out knocking the 9mm.I shoot .38,9mm,.45.I am willing test my pussy ass Ruger p-89 shooting my favorite Cor-bon loads at any of ya who have the balls to stand there and see just how weak it really is.The gun has been shot enough to be smooth as silk,and accurate as any I have seen! 16 rnds most .45's hold 7 or 8.No recoil to speak of so I am back on target quick. Anybody willing to man up an see if you are tougher than 9mm let me know.

China
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mohave rat said...

wouldn't mugging gold miners on payday make more sense then herding sheep. I know! A traveling brothel!
Wait! a traveling bar and brothel/casino. Now your talking. How to survive the collapse and become a millionaire

the rat

by the way the verification word is some kind of gum disease

Anonymous said...

Goats survive just fine in the high desert. They did it in Anatolia, in Iran and the Sahara, so they can handle the American West. I've seen them do it. WE don't eat sagebrush, but goats do, and then ... imagine this ... you milk or eat the goats!!!

It is a lonely, one- or two-food sort of life, but it puts you furthest from kwa while remaining within it. In Wyoming on similar land there is good hunting as well.

Tennessee isn't the worst place, Arkansas and Maine are better, but in either one is too close to the dark zombies, imo.

Anonymous said...

If you visit the Rat's blog you will see his very nice motor home which he doesn't need anymore. Maybe he will let you use it for the traveling brothel?

James m Dakin said...

714- thanks for not dropping the N Bomb. Dark zombies. How...euphamistic ( did I spell that right? ).