Monday, October 10, 2011

fergusons gun

FERGUSONS GUN


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I loved the book “Every Insult And Indignity” by Brown and Roberts ( printed by Create Space, so you go through Amazon ). It is a specialty book, not mass marketed. First, it is expensive. Second, it is so specialized it isn’t all that long even with the personal aspects of the inventor and his military battles ( for those who simply refuse to pay attention, this is the book on the Ferguson breech loading rifle I told you about already ). Now, normally I used to squawk about books much past $20. I automatically advised against them. Now, I see more and more merit in investing in arcane areas. I bought the $33 version of the book. I don’t know if the authors get too much more when I did that, but I had bothered them a few times by email and so I felt I needed to “give to the cause”. You can buy the $20 version, black and white rather than color with some pictures missing, or the $10 Kindle version. I’ll admit, this book isn’t for everyone, but to those interested, you don’t get a better reference book.

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The authors have thousands of dollars invested ( each reproduction rifle cost two grand ) in this research project, and who knows how much time. The expense of this book probably doesn’t even begin to go towards paying back their investment. So, sure, $20-$33 for a small book might seem like a lot, but it is well worth what they have to say. They’ve done the heavy and expensive lifting for you. Over the years, Ferguson users have complained about the breech screw fouling after a few shots, about how the rifle fouled quickly. The authors show you how to use the correct bullet and screw lube and what the correct ball size is, and the kind of powder to use and they were able to duplicate the original royal demonstration when over forty shots were accurately fired without problem by the inventor. In comparison, a Kentucky rifle and the like usually need cleaning after not too much more than a dozen firings. The Brown Bess, a smooth bore, doesn’t get much more than two dozen or so. And, contrary to what I thought, the accuracy of the Ferguson isn’t bad at all. With very good range. The authors show how superior the rifle was to almost all others ( within its intended and designed uses ). Other than the weak wooden stock where the breech plug was, the design was near perfect and far ahead of its time.

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Now, I know you are scratching your head and wondering why you need to research a Ferguson rifle. You have your super deluxe plastic carbine with a case of ammo, so you are sure you can be the new Humongus Of The Wasteland. Silly rabbit, you need guns and ammo you can use with much lower technology. Individual rifles and hoarded ammunition stocks will work fine on an individual sniper basis in limited engagements, but to wage war after the apocalypse you need to reinvent your logistics. After a very short time, modern smokeless powder and primers will be gone. Think of it this way. If you have a ton of wheat, it can feed you for years. If you use it to feed a squad, it is gone in months. You might have enough modern rifle ammo to last you forever, but if you arm a squad it is gone half way through the first war. If, and I stress the word IF, you are actually planning on doing something other than surviving alone in your bunker ( such as actually participating in going on the offensive and driving invaders out of your area ), you might want to consider the feasibility of rearming your troops with Ferguson rifles. I’m not saying you will see your wet dream of becoming a dictator come true. It might just be you have no control over events and are “demoted” to a low rank overseeing the slaves building the armaments your crazed king demands for global domination. But regardless, this knowledge will be far superior to, say, organic gardening. You will be the only one with the foresight to invest in this, the perfect post-apocalypse infantry weapon.

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Not that this is a cheap or easy option. Not only are you going to have to invest in buying a prototype rifle, you will have to know how to duplicate the parts ( one of those machinist deals that can work wood and metal? I think a CNC machine- I’m not sure. There has got to be a minion proficient in this area ). You would need to have barrel blanks, perhaps. Lead ingots. And know how to make the specialized black powder. So, this is for the survivalist that already has everything. Instead of buying an ounce of gold or three, invest in your future arms manufacturing plant. Also, you are going to have to be able to modify the original wood stock, making it stronger ( two piece rather than one? All steel receiver? This is way outside my experience ). Myself, I can envision the strategies the rifle demands, as well as the logistics, but in the manufacturing realm I haven’t a clue. What is the alternative? Figuring out how to duplicate metal cases, modern powder and modern primers ( all these are usually the province of high tech manufacturing with complicated supply chains ). Which one do you think is cheaper and easier?

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Of course, you could just plan on a lone survival strategy with a rifle that does away with expensive modern ammunition. I cringe at the price tag, but it would be a “forever” gun, useable long after the other idiots out there ran out of ammo. The only thing to be cautioned with, is that to work properly ( ie, not foul up and freeze up after three shots or so ) you can’t use crap blackpowder you manufactured out of chicken droppings. The gun is designed to work with high quality powder. But if you pass that hurdle, you have a rifle that is equal if not superior in accuracy and can go at least three times longer before it stops working due to excessive fouling. And reloads much quicker and easier. With a Ferguson available, I’d hate to settle for any other black powder rifle.
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14 comments:

Anonymous said...

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Solsys said...

Anything you can reload a Ferguson rifle with, you reload a Mosin or an Enfield. Or even a .308 black powder cartridge in a bolt-action rifle, which will have ballistics of a .38-55 Winchester cartridge.

Even with zero brass cases around (a near impossibility), you will manufacture cases far easier than you will manufacture Ferguson rifles.

The Ferguson thingy here is a fantasy you want badly and are therefore building a justification for. Keep these fantasies going, as they are artifical problems you want to solve and this may lead you in intersting areas, but don't advise them to others as a wise way to go.

Solsys said...

Sorry, that would be closer to a .32-40 Winchester cartridge

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James m Dakin said...

Solsys- I think that manufacturing primers is beyond most of us. So, the supply will run out. Also, I think that modern rifles will foul rapidly with black powder. I could be wrong, and welcome proof of it. This would make all our lives easier.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be easier to make a falling block receiver with a flintlock than a Ferguson screw block?

Spud said...

Yes I could make primers, yet due to the extreme nature of the compounds involved. I would much rather use black powder. That idea of the electra still intrigues me. Due to the lack of need for primers.
Making better black powder, even modern powder is quite feasible in the home workshop.

James m Dakin said...

solsys- what I'm talking about is, can you make the chemicals needed in primers/powder? No supplies from this side of the collapse, just going out there and processing ore and such.

Solsys said...

James, you were talking about having tools & machinery to manufacture firearms ! That is horrendously expensive.

A box of 5,000 primers fits in a shoebox and costs about 150 USD.

I don't know how many shots are going to be fired from how many homemade Ferguson rifles, but I doubt it would be even remotely 5,000.

Once upon a time, around 2007, I inspired you to write an article about cheap, "disposable" firearms, (second-hand plastic handguns, pawn shop stuff etc.) since most combat and numbers to be killed would take place in the first months of a collapse.

I still stick to that scenario.

Also think that a survivalist is the alternative to a supermarket AND a gunshop combined : when both are either closed, picked clean, looted, destroyed and desperate poor people still feel the panic of not being sufficiently armed and stocked, the town survivalist is the only way to go.

And be sure you are ,known in Elko for what you are, since everybody can access the internet and, besides, how many cool blogs are there about Elko to start with. At the very least thrill-seeking teenagers from Elko know about you.

How many relief food workers using bicycles in the snow, living in a trailer and with hair of unnatural occurence and grace are there anyway ?

So when people will start shooting at each other, some families / ad-hoc alliances will have some firepower and want more, and this means they're going to get you in numbers.

As the IRA once said to Margaret " wife #2" Thatcher : "we can lose many fights, but you'll have to win every fight"

Solsys (who is leaving today for a week, I would have loved to continue this conversation)

Sean Rodgers said...

I agree with anonymous about falling block actions. Several years ago (pre Y2K) I saw an article about some guy who converted his reproduction Sharps rifle to flintlock. Personally, I think it would work better to stock up 100's of thousands of primers instead and leave that excellent rifle as a reliable cap lock, but your mileage will vary. Of course, this is also an expensive weapon, so cost is still an issue.

Anonymous said...

Another suggestion is to consider an early breech loading percussion gun. Ex: The early pre-metalic cartridge Sharps rifles and the Smith carbine. These often used a pre-rolled nitrate paper cartridge and be loaded very quickly. There may be others but I not aware of them? These early breech loading percussion guns are under the same category as muzzleloaders, that is, they can bought through the mail as a non-firearm due to the 1968 gun control act when they declassifed as firearms. This is due to the fact that there is no self contained cartridge, but rather loose components.

Percussion caps could be produced, although not so easily? You would have to manufacture your own fulminate of mercury. "The Poor mans James Bond" by Kurt Saxon lists the recipe, or you can try typing in a search engine "fulminate of mercury" dicks encyclopedia of formulas and processes 1872." I would suggest that you do so through a proxy server to avoid any unwanted attention?

I suppose that fulminate of mercury could also be used to make a sort of crude primer for modern central firing cartridges?

Anonymous said...

One more thing to add to my above comment. I'm thinking that saavy fellow with machining experience may be able to modify an inline muzzleloader to be a breech loader?

Anonymous said...

Another note on fulminate of mercury. Don't mess with this stuff unless you know what you're doing when it comes to chemistry and the safety procedures that go with it. Buy a ton of percussion caps in bulk and hope you never need anymore. That or get a flintlock?

Anonymous said...

its not that hard to produce expedient modern brass ammo...primers/anvils can be re-formed and re-packed with strike-anywhere match heads- the tip only (phosphorous trisulfide)...the rest of the match can be crushed and used in cartridges as gunpowder (covered in army TM 31-210 improvised weapons IIRC)this works for almost any caliber, however it will not have the same power as a smokeless cartridge...